Above inflation pay rises for teachers and NHS staff?

I wonder where the money to pay the public sector will come from. Something should be taken into account during negotiations is the public sector pensions - amounts that the private sector can only dream of. Currently the public sector pensions run into billions. How can we sustain this?

Fantastic! the last gov't ran down all our public services to force us to go private and its totally backfired on them.

Joseann

The 5.5% pay rise for teachers is probably long overdue. I am in favour.

From a selfish point of view, however, I think this will cause an added problem for independent schools, who will now have that to contend with that on top of the VAT on education. Historically the pay rises awarded to teachers at private schools were just above those in state schools. This new leap will cost heavily for them to match it.

Teachers on higher grades are already finding it difficult to get new jobs, obviously hard-pressed school budgets mean that they prefer to recruit teachers who are earning less. This has led to qualified teachers who have to change jobs (due to moving home or whatever) being unable to get teaching jobs and ending up working as Teaching Assistants. Then schools get them to manage classes during teacher absences whilst paying them a TA salary.
It would make more sense to increase school budgets and let the schools promote the best teachers and then pay them more.

*Urmstongran
I'm with you. For a long time my been that since the age of being regarded a child has increased eg 17 year old still a child for legal purposes then its the parents too who should be made to answer and given penalties for any indiscretions carried out be their "children". Perhaps tgey woukd be more interested then to know where kids are and what they are up to.

It is not always the parents fault Urms A family I am very close too had 7 children, adults now, 6 all working, one who got on with a wrong crowd, his life is chaotic, prison, plus other things, how is that the parents fault? The others are all OK.
People are too quick to blame the parents.

We have seen what has happened to children as a result of covid, when they did not receive education of a normal standard and were left in sole control of their parents.
A significant drop in standards of speech and language, behaviour, attitude and work ethic, plus decline in diet and health..
Children spend far more time with parents than with schools.
One who got on with a wrong crowd, his life is chaotic, prison, plus other things, how is that the parents fault?

Because the parents did nothing to prevent it.

Labour started surestart. Cameron started closures, justifying it by claiming families like his used SureStart which didn’t reach families who needed it.
He’d obviously never seen the need in Accrington, bury, Blackburn, Rochdale, Bolton or Oldham where I can confirm they were desperately needed and well used

Thanks for that info Ian64. It’s good to know parents in which areas of Lancashire desperately needed that sort of help.
They should have kept them open and just closed those that weren’t well used.

The country’s debt is about £1.7 trillion I just read. Who’s paying for pay rises? My granddaughter?

I also heard a programme on the radio about Weimar Germany and hyper inflation when the country went bankrupt.

One I knew well was closed then the building used for work with young offenders. It shouldn’t be early years or adolescents should be both
And the research on early years interventions like SureStart is convincing - it works / less teenage pregnancy, drug use etc in adolescents who benefitted from surestart early years

I am64
Two of those I knew well were closed because of underuse then opened as a ‘family hubs’ and are still going strong, joined by other new family hubs set ups in the area.
I’ve added some info.
Support is available for all stages of family life, from pregnancy through to 19 years old or 25 for those with special educational needs and disabilities (SEND).

Families can access a wide range of services at Family Hubs, such as:

midwife and health visitor appointments
groups for expectant mums and dads
counselling for families
baby feeding advice
SEND support groups and advice

Thanks Mollygo. The good family centres I knew all offered the services you list. The best also had a duty worker from the drug/alcohol team, the children and families team. They were all well used by members of their community. Hard to reach families included

Iam64
Do the areas you mention now have Family Hubs which are also well used?