Transwomen take all three medals in 'women's' cycling championship.

There is no proof that it is a male, nor any proof that it wasn’t.
The matter has been called into question on previous occasions but any findings are under a veil of secrecy, which just makes people ask why the truth of those investigations cannot be revealed.

Incidentally, once a GRC allows anyone to falsify their birth certificate, there will be no proof except swab tests (acceptable) or physical examination (unacceptable).
However, refusing either would automatically seem to verify suspicions.

denbylover

How the trans women can accept first prize astounds me. They have to know they have a significant advantage. Bring back a level playing field!

They’re males of the worst kind. That’s how.

That, and the money. It's anything but sportsmanlike though.

The whole 2024 Olympic games is irrevocably tainted by this scandal of allowing biological men to enter women's sports.

And this labour government will not do anything to support women. They are all on the same side as the Trans community. When the PM thinks a woman can have a penis and he cannot give the definition of what is a woman things can only get worse. He has his harem but no willingness to support real women.

Aveline

The whole 2024 Olympic games is irrevocably tainted by this scandal of allowing biological men to enter women's sports.

It was intended to be remembered in a positive way for being “green” and inclusive, but from the farce of much of the opening ceremony onwards it has been sadly memorable for all the wrong reasons. .
The only consolation, for me, has been the outstanding performance of our athletes and their enthusiastic singing of God Save The King from the medals podium.

Woman are just being erased- why bother watching, we know the end result

Being flippant (or I might weep) let’s see how they’d cope with the 100m sprint to get the washing in when it starts to rain, the 50m hurdles over the toys -especially Lego- in the living room, the ironing marathon, the 1000m supermarket sprint before the parking gives out, and the putting your own washing (especially socks) in the laundry basket.
That’d sort ‘em.

Mt61

Woman are just being erased- why bother watching, we know the end result

Yes, this is what feminists have been saying for years now. Wiped out of the language, of competitions of all kinds, and denied privacy, dignity and safety, so that a supposedly tiny minority of 'the most vulnerable' can get their wishes met.

What are the rules?

The International Olympic Committee, which oversees the Games, does not have specific rules or regulations and instead includes 10 guiding principles. The governing body also states that “each international federation is responsible for setting eligibility rules for its sport, including the eligibility criteria that determine qualification for the Olympic Games”.

The guidelines require transgender women to have transitioned before the age of 12 to be eligible for the women’s category, to prevent any potential biological advantage from male puberty.

Laurel Hubbard competed in the Tokyo Olympics, becoming the first openly transgender athlete to do so, and finished last in her competition group. She is not competing in Paris.

Nikki Hiltz is transgender and non-binary and uses the pronouns “they/them”, but has always competed in the female category, and will be representing USA at the upcoming Olympics. They set a US trials record in the 1500m to earn a place on the Olympic squad.

Quinn, a Canadian non-binary footballer, has also been chosen to represent their nation at the Olympic Games. The midfielder, who plays for Toronto, has always competed in female categories.

Hergie Bacyadan, a boxer from the Philippines, competed in the women’s 75kg category in Paris while identifying as a trans man. Born a biological female, he was allowed to compete because he had not undergone hormone replacement treatement.

Which transgender athletes are not allowed to compete in Paris?

American BMX rider Chelsea Wolfe had been hoping to compete in Paris before the UCI, cycling’s governing body, changed its regulations and put an end to her hopes. She had qualified for Tokyo 2020 as an alternate.

Halba Diouf’s dream was also ended by World Athletics’ new regulations, effectively barring the Senegalese-born French sprinter from competing in Paris.

Swimmer Lia Thomas became the first transgender athlete to win a US college title in 2022, but lost a legal case against World Aquatics for her right to compete. The American remains barred from competing in the female category.

Independent

Crikey that article is a good example of the utter mess we are in.

That is because politics/sport has not caught up with societal change.

It will though and my guess is before the next olympics take place.

TerriBull

I agree with Bluebell, 3 defined biological people, should equate to 3 categories. Otherwise it all comes across as cynical knowing ploys to erase women out, they, the trans know they can trounce women every time. What's the point therefore of devoting hours of time and effort into a pursuit they, the actual women don't have a hope in hell of competing in, in any meaningful way against male bodied people. It's rubbish! Anyone with a sense of fairness knows it's cynical manipulation and so unfair.

Yes, three categories. It the fairest way.

Definitely three categories is the way to go.

Females

Males

Others (this can include trans, binary, intersex etc.,)

There is absolutely no reason why anyone other than a born XX female should be in women’s or girls sports.

I'm not sure there would be enough 'others' at Olympic level to compete against each other.
Transwoman should never be allowed to compete with women.
If they are good enough they should be competing with other men but I wonder how many of them are good enough?
The truth is that they wouldn't be up to the standard of the men but can still easily beat women.

I am a little confused but also a bit uneducated in all this transgender stuff. I think that in order to compete the person must have to start transitioning by age 12 years and have to use whatever drugs it takes to alter their bodies. I watched a bit of the Olympics boxing and I thought the boxer resembled a man but then it was said she was a trans women. I feel silly to ask but do these trans women have to go through gender surgery and have the penis removed? or is it okay to be called a woman even if they have a penis? All very strange to me.

On nother forums transwomen (aka men) talk about their 'girl dicks' and complain that lesbians don't fancy them. All getting a bit too confusing.

3nanny6

I am a little confused but also a bit uneducated in all this transgender stuff. I think that in order to compete the person must have to start transitioning by age 12 years and have to use whatever drugs it takes to alter their bodies. I watched a bit of the Olympics boxing and I thought the boxer resembled a man but then it was said she was a trans women. I feel silly to ask but do these trans women have to go through gender surgery and have the penis removed? or is it okay to be called a woman even if they have a penis? All very strange to me.

The boxer isn't a transwoman. Misgendered at birth and brought up as a girl but seems he went through male puberty. The jury seems to be out on that. I hope you aren't even more confused now.

That is because politics/sport has not caught up with societal change

That is presuming that “societal change” is equally applicable in all circumstances.
Obstetrics!
Erectile deficiency?
Contact sports?
Equal does not necessarily mean identical

Disgusting!

RosiesMaw2

Being flippant (or I might weep) let’s see how they’d cope with the 100m sprint to get the washing in when it starts to rain, the 50m hurdles over the toys -especially Lego- in the living room, the ironing marathon, the 1000m supermarket sprint before the parking gives out, and the putting your own washing (especially socks) in the laundry basket.
That’d sort ‘em.

Wonderful.
I had an uncle who decided he would be female until he discovered he had to 'do' for himself. Reverted to male.

Female and open categories.
That’s all it needs. Females, Bi, trans, drag queens, cross-dressers, dsd,
all tested by swab, regardless of how they feel on the day, both before and after races.
My DGD who is grateful that her swimming club only has female and open categories, suggested that the cheating TW could be useful as pace-setters. They couldn’t win the female race but they might serve a useful purpose.

Yes it is a mess but I don't think the answer is as easy as we think. The term Biological female is used, I am not sure what exactly is meant by that. Does it mean they have XX chromosomes, there are some female that have XY chromosomes. Does it mean they have female reproductive organs again not all women can have babies. Does it mean they have lower levels of Testosterone but this can be altered with drugs.

I think I would go with have to pass all three and more. It may mean that some women may not pass but it would be better than the mess we have now.

Thank-you AGAA4 for your reply. So saying the boxer is a transwoman is not quite right. Are we allowed to use the term hermaphrodite as I have seen a few t.v. programmes where babies were born with both gender for male/female and the doctors usually took the sex that was more dominant. Still very confusing and must be hard for the person concerned.

This boxer should not be described as a transwoman.

That term means someone who was a man but now wishes to be regarded as a woman.