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Manchester Airport Assault

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Cadeby Thu 25-Jul-24 12:14:22

A disporportionate reaction it seems. It makes me wonder what happens when there are no filming taking place.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 26-Jul-24 16:58:43

I’m am more concerned about the three police officers who were assaulted and injured simply for doing their job.

The media is focusing on the wrong aspect of this situation.

Callistemon213 Fri 26-Jul-24 17:04:23

Callistemon213

Sparklefizz

What I would like to know is how did the men contact their lawyer so quickly? Was he on speed dial? And now the lawyer is saying that it was an "attempted assassination". If that's not inflammatory talk, I don't know what is !

No, he probably contacted them, seeing an opportunity.

Sparklefizz
Here is a little about the lawyer who came forward to represent the men accusing the police of attacking them.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13673049/lawyer-representing-men-attacked-police-manchester-airport.html

Please excuse the source but I presume the facts about him are in the public domain.

tickingbird Fri 26-Jul-24 17:05:07

The police body cam footage isn’t shown in public until after any proceedings. However, I believe Andy Burnham and the local MP have seen it; hence their considered response.

Callistemon213 Fri 26-Jul-24 17:05:45

GrannyGravy13

I’m am more concerned about the three police officers who were assaulted and injured simply for doing their job.

The media is focusing on the wrong aspect of this situation.

We're only hearing one side of the situation so far.

I hope Andy Burnham will be able to get to the bottom of it all and the whole story will be revealed before long.

Callistemon213 Fri 26-Jul-24 17:06:09

X post tickingbird

Namsnanny Fri 26-Jul-24 17:12:06

GrannyGravy13

I’m am more concerned about the three police officers who were assaulted and injured simply for doing their job.

The media is focusing on the wrong aspect of this situation.

I believe they are too. But I'm not surprised.

growstuff Fri 26-Jul-24 17:14:12

I'm not surprised he's supported Andrew Tate - they sound like peas in a pod. If I were one of the brothers involved in the incident, I'd find myself a new solicitor as soon as possible. Justice needs to be done and seen to be done and that's going to be difficult with people raising emotional responses.

growstuff Fri 26-Jul-24 17:33:46

Oreo

I doubt he or any of the other police officers involved had time to worry about if the men were Muslims or not when it was all kicking off.All they saw was violent men attacking them.

I agree, which is why any comments about Muslims or Pakistanis in general is irrelevant.

nanaK54 Fri 26-Jul-24 17:35:38

GrannyGravy13

I’m am more concerned about the three police officers who were assaulted and injured simply for doing their job.

The media is focusing on the wrong aspect of this situation.

Agreed

growstuff Fri 26-Jul-24 17:36:59

GrannyGravy13

I have just come across an image of the female police officer after she was assaulted, I will not post it as it is not pleasant viewing.

I've only seen one picture of the alleged police officer. Unfortunately, the one I've seen and is doing the rounds of social media is "fake news" and is from an attack in Leicestershire in 2020.

www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/yob-16-who-battered-female-23307598

growstuff Fri 26-Jul-24 18:54:01

It was originally posted by a TikTok "news channel" called reelnews, which only seems to be interested in news about Muslims. It was the reposted by somebody called Paul Miller and then reposted by Richard Tice, who still hasn't deleted his repost, even though there's a note on his X thread that picture is from a totally different incident. Richard Tice has many followers, who have obviously thought it was genuine and it's gone viral.

Iam64 Fri 26-Jul-24 18:58:48

I agree with Callistemon’s earlier post. I expect the flash lawyer saw the video of the officer kicking the man, and contacted the family. It wouldn’t be difficult for him to identify them. He will have offered his services pro Bono and stressed his Muslim as well as legal credentials. Good to see the family wanting to avoid public disorder

Wyllow3 Fri 26-Jul-24 18:59:38

Yes that was confirmed in the "I" fact check.

Time for that lawyer to go, what an unsavoury man.

As far as I understand it, 4 men are still under arrest.

Callistemon213 Fri 26-Jul-24 20:42:29

Good to see the family wanting to avoid public disorder

Yes, it is. I think the family is probably in shock, the police officers are too and that lawyer is jumping on a bandwagon and could cause strife and division.
A family member of one of the men is a police officer and I doubt they will want this to escalate.

Wyllow3 Fri 26-Jul-24 21:05:36

Well said.

Grantanow Sat 27-Jul-24 09:33:18

We need due process and not speculation, knee jerk comments and political weaponizing nor trial by media of any of those involved.

Namsnanny Sat 27-Jul-24 13:43:58

Sorry, Grantow that ship has sailed quite a few years ago now.

Wyllow3 Sat 27-Jul-24 14:20:41

Then we need to try and steer it back on course.

The Rochdale family have made further requests yet again:
“requesting that the people refrain from attending the planned Manchester Airport demonstration this weekend.”

Whole statement

“Mr Waugh posted on X a statement headed "Rochdale Family plea to communities", which said: "The family of the Manchester Airport incident has issued an appeal for calm and healing, requesting that the people refrain from attending the planned Manchester Airport demonstration this weekend.

"We would also not like anyone to be inconvenienced as a result."

The statement added that the family "appreciated the support given" but "urged everyone to respect their wishes during this difficult time".

Mr Waugh said a meeting held in Rochdale on Friday had "made clear that this is a community that strongly believes in the rule of law, that the criminal justice system should follow the evidence wherever it leads, and that offenders should be punished appropriately".

He added: "Those present also rightly stressed that the law should be applied equally to everyone - and that no one, particularly the police, should be above the law."
(I player)

I would also like other MP’s, including Tice, who don’t have in any way the full picture at their disposal to stop inflaming the situation.a letter from Tice's to Yvette Cooper has placed the blame for the incident firmly on the shoulders of the men involved - not the police. Tice has already said the kicking in the head was "Reassuring"

And we simply do not know yet the way the situation escalated.

Wyllow3 Sat 27-Jul-24 14:22:45

(I'd like to see an acceptance that we greatly value the police and their work but that they can make at times serious errors)

Whitewavemark2 Sat 27-Jul-24 14:31:58

Wyllow3

(I'd like to see an acceptance that we greatly value the police and their work but that they can make at times serious errors)

That is my position.

tickingbird Sat 27-Jul-24 15:06:40

Tice’s comments, if accurately reported, are disgraceful. There’s nothing reassuring about seeing a police officer kick someone in the head. However, assaulting police officers carrying out their duties, if this too is accurately reported, must be punished by the courts robustly.

Cadeby Sat 27-Jul-24 15:25:59

Assaulting anybody must be punished. I remember sitting in a cafe, witnessing somebody thrown on the floor and kicked .It was absolutely traumatic.

Wyllow3 Sat 27-Jul-24 15:26:06

Sorry not to give sources, google ‘Tice kicking reassuring’ there are many reliable references, and his letter to Cooper is in the DM in full.)

Wyllow3 Sat 27-Jul-24 15:27:42

(And yes attacks on police addressed fully too, the problem atm is we don’t know the pattern of the escalation)

David49 Sat 27-Jul-24 15:43:17

Police officers are human, when the pressure is too great they snap, just like combat stress, exactly the same happens to nurses, teachers and many others when they are pushed too far they make mistakes, or just give up.