Police Station in Sunderland set on fire tonight

I have never and will never condone violence and or rioting.

GrannyGravy13

I have never and will never condone violence and or rioting.

I think we know you well enough to know that GrannyGravy. I’d guess at least 90% of us feel the same, regardless of our political affiliations.

Casdon 👍🏻

Areas of deprivation where the lack of government funding is being blamed on immigration?

There may be a few but the majority will be ordinary working people who are just sick and tired of not being listened to. The sort of people who, if they were called to fight for our country, would be out there straight away

What a load of old nonesense. Fight for what?

MayBee70

Primrose53

MayBee70

No ordinary citizen in their right mind would join in with these so called protests after seeing what has been happening in other cities. This is organised and coordinated and it disgusts me. As does anyone who makes excuses for this sort of behaviour

When there were riots in Leicester last year between Muslims and Hindus nobody called them thugs. Likewise the Roma community who were wrecking their community in Leeds recently weren’t called any names.

Had they been shipped in from other parts of the country?

Do you think people just stay in their own homes all the time?

What a load of old nonsense

Agreed Cadeby!

“Ordinary working people who are so sick and tired” that they felt the need to get on pre-arranged buses and travel to Southport in order to riot, directly after a vigil for three murdered children.

So “sick and tired” that they ignored the heartbreaking plee of the mother of one of the murdered girls for them to stop the violence.

So ‘sick and tired’ that they rioted in London wearing t shirts emblazoned with images of the murdered children.

Well, I’m sorry if they’re “sick and tired of not being listened to”. In my world they don’t deserve to be listened to, or to have people making excuses for their sick behaviour.

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“Courts will sit for 24 hours to fast-track sentencing under government plans to crack down on far-Right riots that swept Britain on Saturday.

Ministers were locked in talks on Saturday night with senior members of the judiciary about bringing in emergency measures following clashes in major cities that left police injured.”

Source: The Telegraph just now.

Urmstongran

“Courts will sit for 24 hours to fast-track sentencing under government plans to crack down on far-Right riots that swept Britain on Saturday.

Ministers were locked in talks on Saturday night with senior members of the judiciary about bringing in emergency measures following clashes in major cities that left police injured.”

Source: The Telegraph just now.

Good.

Good.

and btw good to read this in GB news

Counter-terror expert claims 'legitimate right-wingers' should 'step forward and condemn violent thugs' after Southport riots

www.gbnews.com/politics/counter-terror-nigel-farage-condemn-violent-thugs-southport-riots

so step up, Farage and Tice, and use your influence to halt the riots

so step up, Farage and Tice, and use your influence to halt the riots

They absolutely should!

Is anyone else fed up of hearing about the “far right”. Let,s carrying on pretending that the unrest in society is due all round the country and also now in Northern Ireland to thugs. When you talk to people there is a growing level of disenchantment, across the age ranges. I have noticed this assiduously, yet people only open up when they think it is safe to make comments. The problem seems to be that people have frightened, intimidated and brainwashed into avoiding having opinions about immigration, especially illegal immigration and the treatment those people receive compared with hard working UK residents. Yvette Cooper did not use the same language to describe the thugs who caused a major disturbance at Manchester Airport, breaking a WPC ‘s nose. Has the “full force of the law” been applied to them.. I have heard nothing on this one. Nobody can condone civil unrest that involves confronting the police, who do an impossible job and should not have to put up with assault, injury etc but if we continue to ignore root causes things will only get worse. The pretty universally perceived double standard policing is being noticed more and more widely and growing resentment is the result.
Had I predicted as little as 10 years ago that Britains borders would be breached by small boats carrying thousands of illegal immigrants, that the tax payer would have to find millions of pounds every single day, that hotels would be requisitioned in holiday areas to house largely single young men from around the world, that the “left leaning” politicians would oppose all efforts to stop the costly practice and then a new government would remove winter fuel help and cancel the plan to limit the amount old people would have to pay in the event of long term dementia, I would have benn ridiculed as a madman!!

I don't think policing is seen as universally double standard. In fact, if you were to ask young black males about policing, I think you'd find that they would complain about being unfairly targeted.

And I still don't understand what people arriving on boats and claiming asylum has to do with the murder of three girls by somebody born in the UK from a Christian Rwandan family.

Infor on above post: full force of the law has been applied in Manchester re airport incident, 4 arrested and GMP say investigations "Still very much ongoing".

Meanwhile over the country large numbers of police injured serious in the riots, just check the news and picots. In Merseyside police dogs were kicked. I saw one picture of a woman police officer on the ground being helped by colleagues.

Not 2 tier, but fair policing.

Rondoallaturc

Is anyone else fed up of hearing about the “far right”. Let,s carrying on pretending that the unrest in society is due all round the country and also now in Northern Ireland to thugs. When you talk to people there is a growing level of disenchantment, across the age ranges. I have noticed this assiduously, yet people only open up when they think it is safe to make comments. The problem seems to be that people have frightened, intimidated and brainwashed into avoiding having opinions about immigration, especially illegal immigration and the treatment those people receive compared with hard working UK residents. Yvette Cooper did not use the same language to describe the thugs who caused a major disturbance at Manchester Airport, breaking a WPC ‘s nose. Has the “full force of the law” been applied to them.. I have heard nothing on this one. Nobody can condone civil unrest that involves confronting the police, who do an impossible job and should not have to put up with assault, injury etc but if we continue to ignore root causes things will only get worse. The pretty universally perceived double standard policing is being noticed more and more widely and growing resentment is the result.
Had I predicted as little as 10 years ago that Britains borders would be breached by small boats carrying thousands of illegal immigrants, that the tax payer would have to find millions of pounds every single day, that hotels would be requisitioned in holiday areas to house largely single young men from around the world, that the “left leaning” politicians would oppose all efforts to stop the costly practice and then a new government would remove winter fuel help and cancel the plan to limit the amount old people would have to pay in the event of long term dementia, I would have benn ridiculed as a madman!!

Exactly.

Quite rightly, the people who destroy the infrastructure of the society they claim to defend are labelled madmen.

PS. Actually I'd label them something else, but it wouldn't be polite.

Whitewavemark2

Farage’s recent comments on GBNews and social media show that he is just as dangerous as Trump.

Just hope that followers of Farage will wake up to his real intent and that is cause unrest wherever he goes. It is the oxygen he thrives on. He is not a politician. He is an agitator and couldn’t care less about this country. Just look at his body language, the way he swaggers and the delight on his face as he drinks in the adulation. He uses the concerns that people have and gives them what they want to hear. Look deeper and you won’t hear any solutions to their problems only aggressive talk that convinces so many that he is the answer to their fears. He is whipping up the trouble that is sweeping the country. What you see on the tv is wholesale criminal behaviour, businesses being ransacked and thieving as the main objective. One thing is for sure once the damage has been inflicted he will be swanning off to America in the hope of enjoying some of the adulation which Trump is enjoying

When you talk to people there is a growing level of disenchantment, across the age ranges. I have noticed this assiduously, yet people only open up when they think it is safe to make comments. The problem seems to be that people have been frightened, intimidated and brainwashed into avoiding having opinions about immigration, especially illegal immigration and the treatment those people receive compared with hard working UK residents

100% agree. Too much wokery and no policies to deal harshly enough with the problem. Ruanha was a deeply flawed plan but at least it was a start.

Why do people want dealing with immigration to be harsh though. We are not a harsh country. Harshness is not a ‘British value’.

The government plan to replace the flawed Rwanda scheme is to deal with applications as quickly as possible so that refugees are either able to work and settle or be refused asylum and deported. That is humane, but if done properly should be effective, as it will mean that jobs will be filled nd refugees will not be being housed at the taxpayers’ expense. The whole concept of a ‘hostile environment’ is cruel and unnecessary.

biglouis

*When you talk to people there is a growing level of disenchantment, across the age ranges. I have noticed this assiduously, yet people only open up when they think it is safe to make comments. The problem seems to be that people have been frightened, intimidated and brainwashed into avoiding having opinions about immigration, especially illegal immigration and the treatment those people receive compared with hard working UK residents*

100% agree. Too much wokery and no policies to deal harshly enough with the problem. Ruanha was a deeply flawed plan but at least it was a start.

Safe to make comments? What do they think people who disagree with them are going to do? Maybe they'll throw bricks through their windows and set their cars on fire.

Doodledog

Why do people want dealing with immigration to be harsh though. We are not a harsh country. Harshness is not a ‘British value’.

The government plan to replace the flawed Rwanda scheme is to deal with applications as quickly as possible so that refugees are either able to work and settle or be refused asylum and deported. That is humane, but if done properly should be effective, as it will mean that jobs will be filled nd refugees will not be being housed at the taxpayers’ expense. The whole concept of a ‘hostile environment’ is cruel and unnecessary.

Yes

Whitewavemark2

Doodledog

Why do people want dealing with immigration to be harsh though. We are not a harsh country. Harshness is not a ‘British value’.

The government plan to replace the flawed Rwanda scheme is to deal with applications as quickly as possible so that refugees are either able to work and settle or be refused asylum and deported. That is humane, but if done properly should be effective, as it will mean that jobs will be filled nd refugees will not be being housed at the taxpayers’ expense. The whole concept of a ‘hostile environment’ is cruel and unnecessary.

Yes

Well said Doodledog.

No harshness needed, just a faster and more efficient system of processing needed.
Still a problem as so many keep on coming of course but sorting the sheep from the lambs and deporting economic migrants and keeping true asylum cases would be good.