The Riots Have Certainly Pushed Pensioners Off The Agenda

That is not from a tabloid.

I am giving up on this thread. Fact is only fact if certain posters on here say it is!

The (in)famous phrase "A good day to bury bad news" comes to mind.

heavenlyheath

Yep we are yesterdays news buried

This is true and Rachel Reeves will be relieved the cut to pensioners is now yesterday’s news.It won’t be off the agenda forever I predict tho.
For those who think it’s ‘whining’ we can have many different ideas in our heads at the same time.
The shocking murders in Southport and the awful violence in many towns included.

Unfortunately the selfish rioters have pushed everyone and everything else off the agenda because it's all about them.

Totally agree with you and they haven’t even been buried yet! Sad times.
The scum rioting have no respect for anyone. Not the poor victims, their families, their community !
Where are the Reform politicians condemning their voters?
Very quiet? Why?

Starmer has blamed far right rioters for attacking police, trying to burn a hotel where asylum seekers were housed and for attacking Muslims and mosques
All of this is true
He also expressed anger that the rioters showed no respect for the murdered children or their families
It’s dreadful but inevitable that the media’s focus is the riots and concerns about the triggers for such aggressive, racist, violent behaviour.

Yes the NF supporters are VERY QUIET and not commenting on this for some reason.

What has happened to "Just Stop Oil"? Are they rioting in a different place?

OnwardandUpward

Unfortunately the selfish rioters have pushed everyone and everything else off the agenda because it's all about them.

Yes, I agree.

Perhaps if everyday policing hadn't disappeared, had not been cut to the bone, antisocial behaviour wasn't an ever-growing problem. Criminals blatantly sticking the preverbial finger up at society as there is very little deterrent we may not be in such an awful situation.
Peaceful protest isn't really possible because of the immediate joining in of these idiots who see it as an excuse to riot.
Looting vape shops??? Says it all.

Its not forbidden to demonstrate across the road from Parliament though. The Cystic Fibrosis famlies did it three or four times whist campaigning for the drugs we needed to keep our children and grandchildren alive. I'd be prepared to get out there again to help my less well off friends get a chance to have their Winter Fuel Payment back. I don't see why they cant pay it to any Pensioner who is NOT paying any income tax. That at least would help those only just over the limit for Pension Credit.

By the next budget I am hoping that Rachel Reeves will have had second thoughts and will raise the threshold for pension credit so more can claim and get WFP too.
Just a hope 🙏

Would you want to get caught up in the current riots in order to make your point, though?

AGAA4

By the next budget I am hoping that Rachel Reeves will have had second thoughts and will raise the threshold for pension credit so more can claim and get WFP too.
Just a hope 🙏

That's what I'm pushing for very hard with our local LP MP, AGAA4.

And yes, as MaggsMcG said there are peaceful ways to get views heard.

I'm frustrated with the 3 petitions are they are "all or nothing" cancel or keep but mass emails might be heard. I wish there was a "middle way" one.

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There are a number of issues that are getting pushed back although most won't be addressed until parliament resits always the case in the summer.

There will be people on the edge of any new arrangements made though.
It is always going to be so.
People who are just above the limit.

What will people do about that?

Yes, that occurred MissA. No way round it, always a compromise.

Ellylanes1

Perhaps if everyday policing hadn't disappeared, had not been cut to the bone, antisocial behaviour wasn't an ever-growing problem. Criminals blatantly sticking the preverbial finger up at society as there is very little deterrent we may not be in such an awful situation.
Peaceful protest isn't really possible because of the immediate joining in of these idiots who see it as an excuse to riot.
Looting vape shops??? Says it all.

I agree (wish GN had a like button)

Wyllow3

Yes, that occurred MissA. No way round it, always a compromise.

Well, I'd hope people will carry on the fight, even if the limit no longer affects them.

I doubt it though, somehow.

Great suffering caused in the areas where normal policing has been put on hold in order to contain rioting, given how much we need them. Call 999 for help and...

Even if it gives more pensioners a better winter it will have achieved something.

Terrible times! I suspect it will not only be pensioners in the "Warm spaces", this winter.

Find your nearest one here www.warmwelcome.uk/find-a-space

BevSec

Richard Littlejohn has written an excellent piece today about how Labour are taking the opportunity of the riots to keep blaming “the far right” which is taking the focus off the grieving families. Despicable.

It's not the government who are despicable.

It is the rioters who are aiming bricks at police and anyone else they don't like, looting and setting fire to cars and buildings. That's despicable.

So if we are not to blame the far-right - who are we to blame for encouraging these 'protests'? The 'far-lef'? Immigrants? Pensioners? Who?

undines

Doesn't ANYONE think there could be a hidden agenda here???
The riots are very convenient for turning everyone's attention away from everything except, well, the riots, and thinking about ways to stop them.
Which will lead to more government control, censorship (which we have already, in spades) and generally much less attention to all the things that worry so many people, such as warmth, housing, food on the table... Call this a Labour government? Wake up! Michael Foot would turn in his grave.

Yes that'll be it. Parts of the UK burn to divert attention from naughty Labout taking away help with heating costs.

Indeed a convenient,diversion. Unless you happen to be getting your head kicked in or you are part of the police force.

Iam64

Littlejohn is by no means an independent voice here

Quite!