False information and incitement on SM and prosecuting the perpetrators

I think you are wrong Orro - I think the home office would not do that without formally having an "amnesty-type" period.

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Whitewavemark2

terribull Islamaphobia is not formalised in British law.

Anti-semitism is.

We should afford them the same courtesy.

Of course. Makes no sense otherwise.

In Islam, if you are born Muslim, you remain a Muslim forever, whatever choices you make later. Same for Jews, and many other denominations. Once a Catholic, always a Catholic. And certainly true of jehovah Witnesses, and others.

What about Fundamentalism. I don't believe you can hold Jews or Catholics to 'Twin Tower' atrocities; the Manchester Arena bombing etc..

Some have never got over the 'rivers of blood' speech and incitment to fear leading to hatred

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Oh my Boz - have you been watching what has been happening in Gaza recently???

Above video: Jonathan Miller and Enoch Powell!

And what started that War; an Act of Terrorism.

Prison sentences for the 3 idiots appearing in court today in answer to riot charges. I hope the certainty of a spell in prison and a criminal record may deter those who would lose jobs due to their behaviour and the drastic knock on effect that can have on a family. The die-hard ones will see incarceration as some sort of martyrdom but I hope it makes a number of them weigh up the pros and cons.

No one denies that. The response has been totally disporportionate. And the treatment of Palestinians has been cruel, violent and murderous since the Nacbah.

What about fundamentalism? You do realise that Muslims come in as many guises than Christians. Do you believe that all Christians should be punished with violent riots if one man of Christian background or birth, commits a hateful crime (so many mass shootings in the recent past for instance)- all Christians or those born Christian - should be attacked and punished. Or all Jews for that matter, because of what Netanyahu is currently doing 'in their name'?

Sarnia

Prison sentences for the 3 idiots appearing in court today in answer to riot charges. I hope the certainty of a spell in prison and a criminal record may deter those who would lose jobs due to their behaviour and the drastic knock on effect that can have on a family. The die-hard ones will see incarceration as some sort of martyrdom but I hope it makes a number of them weigh up the pros and cons.

Good news. 🥳

growstuff

I don't pretend to understand racial hatred at all.

Neither do I, or, imo, any “normal” decent human being.

Many of these Yobs, that’s what they are, have probably never even spoken to a Muslim.

Why on earth was my post deleted?

Fleurpepper I’m just wondering the same thing!

I read Fleurpepper’s post and didn’t find it offensive in any way.

Certainly no more than several other highly offensive posts on GN at the moment. I’m not reporting any of those offensive posts. I believe they should stand for all to read so we can see what sort of people are posting on GN.

I’m shocked that Fleurpepper’s post was deleted

Why on earth was my post deleted?

Because I reported you for spreading false information - ironically on a thread about the dangers of it!

Your post was extremely offensive to me, making wild baseless accusations.

What about Fundamentalism. I don't believe you can hold Jews or Catholics to 'Twin Tower' atrocities; the Manchester Arena bombing etc

Boz what have asylum seekers (including children) in a hotel, Asian shopkeepers, innocent Asian families in their own homes got to do with the Twin Towers and Manchester Arena atrocities?

I really want you to tell me.

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As Oreo said.

Labelling everybody belonging to a particular ethnic/religious group because of the actions of an extreme minority is racism.

Not sure most people label but it makes them wary.

It’s ridiculous to ‘be wary’ (or worse) about all Muslims / Asians because of the actions of a tiny, tiny minority. I would argue it has its roots in racism. Let’s call it what it is - a dislike of different skin colour!

For instance:
*Catholic priests are proven to have abused children. Are all Catholics viewed as abusers? I think not.

*The Yorkshire Ripper came from Yorkshire. Are all Yorkshire men viewed as rapist and murderers? I think not.

I’m sure I don’t need to go on.

growstuff

Labelling everybody belonging to a particular ethnic/religious group because of the actions of an extreme minority is racism.

Yes

Hang on a minute there,
Did you have to travel on the London tube when an Asian young man got on with a large rucksack? I can tell you that just about the whole carriage was wary.It can’t have been any fun for him either, but when attacks were rife in London it really did make people uneasy.
All everybody knew was that Islamist extremists were blowing places up.
It hasn’t gone away, but fortunately MI5 have got very good at foiling plots.

To try and say that everybody and everything is racism just isn’t true.

Oreo I so agree with you, its just so easy to fling “racist” around.

LizzieDrip

It’s ridiculous to ‘be wary’ (or worse) about all Muslims / Asians because of the actions of a tiny, tiny minority. I would argue it has its roots in racism. Let’s call it what it is - a dislike of different skin colour!

For instance:
*Catholic priests are proven to have abused children. Are all Catholics viewed as abusers? I think not.

*The Yorkshire Ripper came from Yorkshire. Are all Yorkshire men viewed as rapist and murderers? I think not.

I’m sure I don’t need to go on.

My son-in-law isn't Asian. His ancestors are African. He's British to the core.