Since January, an amendment to the Online Safety Act 2023 allows for the prosecution of those who convey information that they know to be false and “if the person intended the message, or the information in it, to cause non-trivial psychological or physical harm to a likely audience”.
Ashley Fairbrother, a senior prosecutor at the law firm Edmonds Marshall McMahon, said: “This now makes the circulation of damaging and false information online into an offence in its own right.”
A former director of public prosecutions, Lord Ken Macdonald KC, spelled out on Monday how he believed investigators would want to quickly identify individuals who are involved in “online organisation, online incitement and online conspiracies”.
“I think prosecutors will want to have a strategy to identify people who may have been involved in inciting and encouraging these events, and they will want to arrest them and build cases against them. These are, in one sense, the most important people,”
Oreo
To try and say that everybody and everything is racism just isn’t true.
Nobody's saying that everybody and everything is racist. However, there's a hard core of people who are racists.
Oreo
Not sure most people label but it makes them wary.
Many people do label and moreover make ridiculous stereotyped comments about Muslims.
Oreo
Hang on a minute there,
Did you have to travel on the London tube when an Asian young man got on with a large rucksack? I can tell you that just about the whole carriage was wary.It can’t have been any fun for him either, but when attacks were rife in London it really did make people uneasy.
All everybody knew was that Islamist extremists were blowing places up.
It hasn’t gone away, but fortunately MI5 have got very good at foiling plots.
I chose to use the London tube and it never occurred to me that anybody with a brown face might be a terrorist. For all I know, anybody walking down the street could be a psychopath.
Many people do label and moreover make ridiculous stereotyped comments about Muslims
Absolutely Growstuff.
Fortunately I think tonight’s show of anti-racism across England demonstrates that the racists are in the minority.
growstuff
Oreo
Not sure most people label but it makes them wary.
Many people do label and moreover make ridiculous stereotyped comments about Muslims.
As they also do about Jews.
growstuff you say you have a Muslim son-in-law, but that doesn’t mean you can try and make out people are racists who have concerns, valid and genuine concerns around Islamist extremism. The government and MI5 have concerns about it.
On a day to day level we treat people with respect whatever their race or religion is, or most people do.
growstuff
If you had no concerns around using the tube or London transport around the time of the Islamist extremist bombings then you weren’t there.Everybody was extremely nervous I can tell you.
LizzieDrip
^Many people do label and moreover make ridiculous stereotyped comments about Muslims^
Absolutely Growstuff.
Fortunately I think tonight’s show of anti-racism across England demonstrates that the racists are in the minority.
Racists really are in the minority in the UK.
I'm a Christian and I have genuine concerns about the bible- belt- Trump- loving Christians in America might do if they affect the legislature of such a powerful country.
I fear for our daughters and granddaughters if their world view is enshrined in statute.
Islamaphobia, Anti - semitism plus a big dollop of misogyny will not make the any of us safer.
Oreo
growstuff
Oreo
Not sure most people label but it makes them wary.
Many people do label and moreover make ridiculous stereotyped comments about Muslims.
As they also do about Jews.
growstuff you say you have a Muslim son-in-law, but that doesn’t mean you can try and make out people are racists who have concerns, valid and genuine concerns around Islamist extremism. The government and MI5 have concerns about it.
On a day to day level we treat people with respect whatever their race or religion is, or most people do.
But they do label and make ridiculous stereotypical assumptions. I don't need a Muslim son-in-law to see that.
See it regularly - every day on GN
Oreo
growstuff
Oreo
Not sure most people label but it makes them wary.
Many people do label and moreover make ridiculous stereotyped comments about Muslims.
As they also do about Jews.
growstuff you say you have a Muslim son-in-law, but that doesn’t mean you can try and make out people are racists who have concerns, valid and genuine concerns around Islamist extremism. The government and MI5 have concerns about it.
On a day to day level we treat people with respect whatever their race or religion is, or most people do.
I have not tried to make out that people with genuine concerns (and nothing else) are racists.
I disagree, there are few racist posts on GN and you do not see it every day on this forum.
Chocolatelovinggran
I'm a Christian and I have genuine concerns about the bible- belt- Trump- loving Christians in America might do if they affect the legislature of such a powerful country.
I fear for our daughters and granddaughters if their world view is enshrined in statute.
Islamaphobia, Anti - semitism plus a big dollop of misogyny will not make the any of us safer.
We have to hope that the Democrats will win.Not just for the people in the US either!
Greyisnotmycolour
If you are going to argue about illegal immigration at least get the facts and terminology right. Migrants arriving by boat are not illegal immigrants. They are asylum seekers until their claims are processed and a decision is made as to whether or not their claim is valid. If their asylum claim is not approved they are deported. Approximately 80 % of asylum claims are genuine.
I had no idea that 20% are not.
Of course you would disagree Oreo. And yes, I see casual racism every day on threads here. It almost made me leave the site.
None so blind as those that will not see
David49
Whatever personal opinion you may hold immigrants/migrants are a fact of life, they are not going away, so this mindless violence must stop, it’s not going to achieve anything
Wars "achieve" something.
People try and kill their enemies.
There have always been "tribal" wars.
growstuff
I don't pretend to understand racial hatred at all.
As I have just posted, even people from different tribes, end up killing each other sometime.
Sure there have been wars started about less, too.
Oreo
I disagree, there are few racist posts on GN and you do not see it every day on this forum.
Well, I've never kept a record, so I don't know whether it's daily, but it's certainly regularly.
He can call himself what he likes but if he isn’t religious and not a practising Muslim then he isn’t actually Muslim
A good point.
Why ‘of course’ ?
This site is the least racist of possibly any in the world! It shows that many of you don’t know what’s out there.
It also shows that you seem to think racism is only the preserve of white people.It further shows that many live in lovely leafy areas and aren’t in touch with what goes on in the ‘mean streets’ of the UK.
Most people aren’t racists and live and let live but there are those who live on the fringes of society, usually young who have just about nothing, have had an awful start in life and these are the ones sucked into rioting that need thinking about.
We really are a broken society and I think it’s going to take real ambition on the part of the new government to fix it.It will take years and years but should begin right now.
Oreo
I disagree, there are few racist posts on GN and you do not see it every day on this forum.
Totally disagree !
We even had the posters quoting a Russian news site about the alleged perpetrator of the killings of the young girls .
That created a lot of racist posts .
Lots of thinly veiled racism here .
It’s appalling .
No it isn’t, and aren’t you in the US btw? A site such as Gransnet is like a kitten compared to a tiger.
Oreo 👏👏👏👏👏👏
Oreo
Why ‘of course’ ?
This site is the least racist of possibly any in the world! It shows that many of you don’t know what’s out there.
It also shows that you seem to think racism is only the preserve of white people.It further shows that many live in lovely leafy areas and aren’t in touch with what goes on in the ‘mean streets’ of the UK.
Most people aren’t racists and live and let live but there are those who live on the fringes of society, usually young who have just about nothing, have had an awful start in life and these are the ones sucked into rioting that need thinking about.
We really are a broken society and I think it’s going to take real ambition on the part of the new government to fix it.It will take years and years but should begin right now.
I know very well what's "out there". Nowhere have I claimed that GN is more racist than any other site. Nevertheless, there have been casual (and not so casual) racist comments on GN (and not just about Muslims). Strawman arguments are a little tedious.
fancythat
^He can call himself what he likes but if he isn’t religious and not a practising Muslim then he isn’t actually Muslim^
A good point.
I really do wonder what gives anybody the right to claim they know how other people should identify.
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