Angela Rayner dancing whilst on holiday in Ibiza

Casdon article in Conservative Woman about Labour and spite. I hope it is untrue but changes to threshold so now paying from £125k and not £250k.

It is not the truth ronib, it’s pure speculation designed to further inflame the fears of ‘conservative woman’. If you’re allowing yourself to get upset by speculation you will lose the ability to rationalise, it’s far better to avoid it until there are actual facts from the government about their intentions.

www.conservativewoman.co.uk/democracy-in-decay-spiteful-labour-are-ruining-my-last-years/
This is the article written from the point of view of someone who feels hard done by and sees Reform as the answer. Conservative Woman might have to think of changing its name.

Conservative Woman was a main critic of the Conservatives in government. The quote from Virginia Woolf is worth reading
‘There’s a kind of sadness that comes from knowing too much, from seeing the world as it truly is.’

Angela Rayner (from 3.33) being clear that Labour do not plan on scrapping Right to Buy (which I think is a shame) but may, subject to consultation, bring back the much less heavily discounted scheme that she bought her house under.

She talks about Grenfell before that, the WFA afterwards, and even touches on the furore around her dancing.

news.sky.com/video/deputy-pm-angela-rayner-on-grenfell-right-to-buy-and-her-viral-ibiza-raving-video-13209900

What also impressed me was her willingness to talk about her difficult background without blame or self pity.
Since she first came to public notice she has done nothing but promote her difficult background, rightly or wrongly at the expense of her parents. I don't believe they encouraged her to go out clubbing when she was 14 and 15 to the detriment of her school work.
Neither..... is there anything wrong or hypocritical in buying a house under existing legislation, and then coming, over a period of years and as the disastrous effects of that policy become clearer, to realise that it needs to change.
Yes it is hypocritical because she did benefit from it but is now apparently happy promoting a policy preventing others from doing the same.

No wonder you’re anxious ronib, if you’re reading articles like the one linked by Parsley.

eazybee, I accept we will never agree about Angela Rayner. You don’t accept her parents ‘encouraged her to go clubbing at 14 to the detriment of her school work.’ My impression is her father was missing for long periods. Her mother needed a career - Angela. It seems Angela’s Education wasn’t high on her parents agenda

“Police in the UK have been contacted over reports of cocaine use in the British Parliament, the Associated Press reported on Monday.

"The accounts of drug misuse in Parliament given to the Sunday Times are deeply concerning -- and I will be raising them as a priority with the Metropolitan Police this week," House of Commons Speaker Lindsay Hoyle said in a statement. "I expect to see full and effective enforcement of the law."

Hoyle contacted the police following a Sunday Times report that pointed to the use of illegal drugs in Parliament buildings.

‘Drug detection wipes found traces of cocaine in 11 out of 12 bathrooms tested on the premises, according the report, including a lavatory close to British Prime Minister Boris Johnson's office. The bathrooms tested included some only accessible to those who hold parliamentary passes, including lawmakers, staffers, and journalists”
Maybe she should avoid going to the House of Commons too, then

yes it is hypocritical because she did benefit from it but is now apparently happy promoting a policy preventing others from doing the same

Except she isn’t, and I provided a link to her saying so 25 minutes before you posted. Here it is again:

Angela Rayner (from 3.33) being clear that Labour do not plan on scrapping Right to Buy (which I think is a shame) but may, subject to consultation, bring back the much less heavily discounted scheme that she bought her house under.

news.sky.com/video/deputy-pm-angela-rayner-on-grenfell-right-to-buy-and-her-viral-ibiza-raving-video-13209900

Siope, I cant make your link work?

this might

news.sky.com/video/deputy-pm-angela-rayner-on-grenfell-right-to-buy-and-her-viral-ibiza-raving-video-13209900

We should have a "myth and fantasy" forum on gransnet.

Its most ly on government policy (she aquits herself well imo), the "dancing in Ibiza" bit is from 9 min onwards.

Thanks Wyllow.

Grenfell, right to buy, WFA, dancing. Whether you agree with her positions or not, she is clearly on top of her brief, and wider party policy.

Looking straight at the camera,thoroughly briefed, a little humour, professionaly attired.

In sharp contrast to some.

ronib

If that had been Yvette Cooper or any politician seen to be drinking vodka all night, the criticism would be the same. Also in a very expensive nightclub with drugs available. If Keir Starmer is wanting to stop smoking in pub gardens, he won’t have strong grounds for trying to curb excessive drinking and drug taking will he if senior politicians don’t set a good example?

Oh, please give it up, you are beginning to sound a bit obsessed about AR! Drugs available? Well, this may come as a shock to you, but recreational drugs are available everywhere, not just Ibiza clubs, there are no grounds at all to suggest there was excessive drinking, or drug taking by AR, in fact, given the witch hunt that is taking place on GN, I think we can safely assume that had AR partaken of anything in excess, then there would be many people delighted to share the news.

ronib

Conservative Woman was a main critic of the Conservatives in government. The quote from Virginia Woolf is worth reading
‘There’s a kind of sadness that comes from knowing too much, from seeing the world as it truly is.’

Woolf was writing about her severe depression - not about the government of the day!!

Correct facts are always useful when discussing a subject I always think.

Well the government of the day is giving a lot of people severe depression Wwm2

So is the constant criticism of Rayner, particularly when it's for half baked "facts"

I think we are all getting tired of the constant moaning about Angela Rayner and hope for an end to it.

It's bloody depressing to see how the working class is really perceived by some.

Seems quite obvious the witch hunt here is directed at anyone who dares to not follow the party line. Please note that upto a point this country has some limited freedoms of opinion and for me, I am sick and tired of hearing about black holes which are a complete fabrication of Reeves and Starmer. And guess what? I am allowed to have this opinion. I am surprised that AR is spouting the same propaganda and using it against pensioners. End of ….

Honestly, end of? 🙏

ronib

Eloethan

They are always throwing stuff at Angela Rayner. They hate her working class background and everything she does is criticised. Pathetic.

Eloethan it’s not that AR has a working class background- it’s just that certain posters have very old fashioned ideas about the presentation of self in high public office. We can’t help having an expectation of professional behaviour in public office. What matters more though is how the country is run and at the moment, we are wondering how far down the line we go before the IMF takes over….

Are you being serious? I have spent the last 14 years watching the country being ruined by the biggest bunch of amateur chancers, who managed to crash the economy and kill loads of people with their mismanagement of a pandemic, seemingly more interested in handing lucrative contracts to their donors and cronies, and you post this? Did you watch Farage in the EU parliament breaking every rule of professionalism and courtesy? I expect you think he's a fine bloke eh? What exactly has AR done to you? We don't need men to oppress us when we have women like you to do it for them.

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I think this is probably not the forum for me, how everyone else stays polite to this idiocy is probably beyond me.