How about this to make the immigration problem fairer?

This seems perfectly reasonable. And am pretty certain asylum seekers would welcome it because they really would rather return home. But there are some issues with this that I can see immediately. I mean some AS from countries like Iran will probs never be able to return because the regime is pretty strong despite various protests by the people. And imagine if an AS gets married to a British passport holder, has children, trains, and is working in the NHS etc., would it then be counter productive to send this person home?
But does sound better than some other measures being circulated on here.

Another interesting rule in Denmark.

When my DS went to live there in 2013 he had to sign a form saying that he would not be a burden on the state or claim any thing from public funds for the first 5 years after his arrival.

I think he did get free hospital treatment though.

I don't know if this rule is still in place.

A young man in our City sought asylum due to his homosexuality.
He was clearly undecided as he managed to father 3 children to 3 different women.

I thought it was always the case that asylum was granted in the Uk until the threat back in the home country had stopped?? That is once it was safe to return …. This makes sense.

We need a tough immigratioon policy like that of Australia.

Germany has stated no more. Borders closed apparently. Or to be closed. Not sure their neighbours are happy about it.

What we need biglouisis for the inmates not to be in charge of the asylum…….

It would seem a reasonable solution.

I hear that Germany is closing its borders later this month, and surely that will compromise the essence of The Schengen Agreement, although it did seem that some countries such as Hungary were never committed to it in the first place. Germany cannot reasonably expect to set a new precedent and expect other countries not to follow.

I have just read that Germany is closing its borders, needs must.

If Germany have started to do this.. Who will be next?

GrannyGravy13

I have just read that Germany is closing its borders, needs must.

But would that actually work we are surrounded by water and that doesn't deter people

The OP’s post is the only sensible solution.

Closing borders is not an option - they will come anyway - they are desperate - what should we do? - push the boats back out to sea and leave them to drown?

Asylum here isn’t always for life or permanent.

Sago

A young man in our City sought asylum due to his homosexuality.
He was clearly undecided as he managed to father 3 children to 3 different women.

Is he a friend, is that how you have such details?

Babs03

This seems perfectly reasonable. And am pretty certain asylum seekers would welcome it because they really would rather return home. But there are some issues with this that I can see immediately. I mean some AS from countries like Iran will probs never be able to return because the regime is pretty strong despite various protests by the people. And imagine if an AS gets married to a British passport holder, has children, trains, and is working in the NHS etc., would it then be counter productive to send this person home?
But does sound better than some other measures being circulated on here.

Someone who marries a British has no automstic right to stay here now. They can apply after five years, I believe.

We know two people who have married people from overseas, one has married a refugee and even changing her name to his surname requires a complicated legal process.

Marriage does not confer citizenship but a spouse visa can be issued for a limited time.

Sorry - Someone who marries a British citizen ---

Sago

A young man in our City sought asylum due to his homosexuality.
He was clearly undecided as he managed to father 3 children to 3 different women.

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LR10

Asylum in Denmark is now a temporary measure rather than a path to permanent settlement. Asylum seekers who need a place of refuge are granted one for as long as their home country is unsafe, but no longer. Apparently this has drastically cut the numbers of those who seek asylum as a way to improve their economic prospects. Is that a solution that covers most bases?

BUT we are not getting Asylum seekers, we are getting immigrants nearly all men that have come from France. If these people needed help they would stay in France but no, they come over in boats because the grass is greener over here and they get free everything.

Luckygirl3

Closing borders is not an option - they will come anyway - they are desperate - what should we do? - push the boats back out to sea and leave them to drown?

When they land, put them on a ship straight away and sail them back to whence they came which usually is France. Keep returning them on a daily basis until they realise we mean business.

Allira

Sorry - Someone who marries a British citizen ---

There is no automatic right of a spouse to UK citizenship from any other country, India, Australia, China or the US the rules are the same, it’s not easy.

We can't do that - France would have to agree to accept, it would be a hostile act of aggression in international law. If such a simple solution were ever feasible, it would have been done in 2020 and 2021 when returning the boats options were discussed widely before Rwanda was cooked up.

eggplant

Sago

A young man in our City sought asylum due to his homosexuality.
He was clearly undecided as he managed to father 3 children to 3 different women.

Is he a friend, is that how you have such details?

No it was reported widely in the local and national press

Yes I think I am right in saying Denmarks government is 'left' economically but 'right' socially. It's interesting to watch.