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How about this to make the immigration problem fairer?

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LR10 Tue 10-Sept-24 14:42:07

Asylum in Denmark is now a temporary measure rather than a path to permanent settlement. Asylum seekers who need a place of refuge are granted one for as long as their home country is unsafe, but no longer. Apparently this has drastically cut the numbers of those who seek asylum as a way to improve their economic prospects. Is that a solution that covers most bases?

eazybee Sun 17-Nov-24 06:51:53

Interesting to note that today's edition (17.11.2024) of the Sunday Telegraph contains an article referring to asylum seekers' 'fake claims around their sexual orientation to game ECHR system' and specifically mentions Saheed Azeez, who claimed asylum in Britain because he feared death on account of his homosexuality from Boko Harum. He was found to have fathered three children on three different women, marrying the third, and was later sentenced to five years imprisonment for a parcel fraud scam. He now claims to be bisexual.

Oreo Sun 17-Nov-24 09:28:33

I’m sure there are many ways to try and circumvent the immigration rules, there have been false claims of homosexuality and also conversion to other faiths found to be untrue upon investigation.
I don’t know what the answer is to stop the small boats arrivals from France but those that do make it here should be treated well and the whole process speeded up so that only the genuine asylum seekers are granted refugee status.

Oreo Sun 17-Nov-24 09:41:39

Meant to add that French police need to do as much as possible to puncture the boats and arrest the smugglers on the beach.I read somewhere that they were often put off doing this as the smugglers can be really violent, but could they use the army to assist in these confrontations?

Shinamae Sun 17-Nov-24 10:34:37

Allsorts

I can't see why at thread cannot be resurrected if it's still relevant.

I totally agree….

Oreo Sun 17-Nov-24 10:39:13

Allsorts

I can't see why at thread cannot be resurrected if it's still relevant.

I agree.
If it’s years and years ago that’s prob different but this one seems to be an ongoing thread and is topical.

Oreo Sun 17-Nov-24 10:40:17

Over 1,000 this week in November they say.I really don’t know where they can put them all.

Wyllow3 Sun 17-Nov-24 10:43:43

Allsorts

Why can't the boats be taken or damaged in France so they cannot sail. I suppose that's too easy to consider.

Sky news, June. (I've used this before for the same query)

"One problem now is that many boats don't actually land on the beach. They come round and stay out on the sea and people wade out to get on them.

"Boat launches happen quickly these days. Smugglers have worked out that it's much more efficient to launch the boat elsewhere and bring it round to the beach, allowing your passengers to run into the water and clamber aboard.

And, under maritime law, there's not much the French police can do to get involved.

They're not allowed to enter the water to stop a boat that hasn't asked for help and, well, it's not illegal for migrants to run into the water"

(Sky news has reported that yes, whenever possible boats that come close to the shore are punctured, but its a cat and mouse game - its a long coastline and patrols cant always get there in time)

Oreo Sun 17-Nov-24 10:46:40

France needs to pass a new maritime law asap with regard to people smuggling gangs and inflatables.

Oreo Sun 17-Nov-24 10:47:57

The bottom line tho is that France have no real incentive to stop them as it gets them away from France.

Fartooold Sun 17-Nov-24 11:10:10

Well said mum2three it breaks my heart to read some of these threads. The asylum seekers are human beings some good (mostly) some bad!

Wyllow3 Sun 17-Nov-24 11:40:44

Maritime Laws are internationally negotiated and agreed, not by national countries.