There is no smoke without fire.
How ironic - some HMRC staff essentially committing fraud.
I’m not surprised, he’s always, from TV anyway, seemed slightly ‘off’ to me
There is no smoke without fire.
The Strictly Dancer was completely innocent and his partner was mentally ill because she had been divorced some years before, according to GransNet ladies who love Strictly
Rosie51
I don't know why we bother with court cases, the arena of trial by popular opinion should always suffice.
It’s not just a case of someone pointing a finger though. If it were I would agree. Before a case like this can get to court there has to be a lot of evidence, and before the BBC reports on it and suspends a high profile presenter they will know the accusations are true.
Some of you really do relish seeing someone fall from grace! Especially if you can claim that you always knew they were dodgy.
He didn't fall from grace, he picked his own downfall by being a coercive, manipulate and abusive person, he thought he was above being caught like many others.
AskAlice According to Wiki he was born in Brent but grew up in Hackney.
Yet another "cosy" BBC show hit by potential scandal.
Good grief There is no smoke without fire Tell that to the recently realeased men who have spent years imprisoned for crimes they didn’t commit BigBopper
Well guilty or innocent he’s been tried and convicted on GN
I ve never watched the man so have no thoughts on the subject
but to all those saying he was too this and too that, I need to say abusers of any kind are not ‘this’ or ‘that’ you cannot pick an abuser out because they come across as big headed, over bearing, know it all Abusers very often seem ok people to the average person indeed often ‘pillars of the community’ not everyone who seems to know it all or are strident in their views is an abuser, it just shows ignorance to say ‘oh I never liked him’ ‘ a bit of a poseur’ ‘Jumped up little ..’
What a judgemental thread
BigBopper
There is no smoke without fire.
Wow! I would never want to be on trial with you on the Jury!
I have always admired him.
He was upfront about not being able to read until he was 51, he has worked hard to get adults into reading and writing and to get over the stigma of being illiterate.
Fine GG13, he obviously has some good points as everybody does.
since the new law bought in against coercive behaviour and several cases bought before the courts in recent weeks, I wonder why you wouldn't just walk away from the relationship? unless you are seriously under threat of course. It seems that some stay until they have a log!
just saying!
Wow Lemsip... you obviously have been very fortunate in your life, suggesting women stay in abusive relationships to obtain a log???!!
It isn't that easy to walk away.
Bridie22
Wow Lemsip... you obviously have been very fortunate in your life, suggesting women stay in abusive relationships to obtain a log???!!
It isn't that easy to walk away.
So sorry for your inabilty to interpretate what I meant in my 'just saying, for discussion
Jay Blades has always claimed to come from Hackney, which I believe to be in the East End of London. He also lives in Claverley, which is not in Wolverhampton, West Midlands as stated in the DT, but is a nearby village in Shropshire, a different county. Inaccurate reporting.
before the BBC reports on it and suspends a high profile presenter they will know the accusations are true.
That could possibly be libellous. Last week an account claimed Amanda Abbington was incandescent with rage because the BBC findings, as yet unpublished, were a whitewash.
Both unproven at present.
Lemsip... rude and not necessary.
lemsip
since the new law bought in against coercive behaviour and several cases bought before the courts in recent weeks, I wonder why you wouldn't just walk away from the relationship? unless you are seriously under threat of course. It seems that some stay until they have a log!
just saying!
Well, many women partners are literally trapped financially. And the perpetrator partner knows it.
I would support a change to the law so that people are not named before being found guilty. He could have been quietly dropped from the schedules until the case came to court.
But (and it’s a big ‘but’) given the way Jimmy Savile, Rolf Harris and others got away with abuse for decades, and the BBC was (rightly) hauled over the coals for not acting more quickly and not taking notice of victims, I can see why he’s been sacked.
What would people rather see happen? Keep him in post and risk another scandal? Given that rich celebrities can pay for very expensive legal representation it is likely that by the time the accusations hit the fan all defence avenues have been thoroughly explored. There have been rumours for years about the behaviour of some very high profile celebrities, and the consensus is that this won’t come to light until they die because their legal teams have everything sewn up. They continue to work, and the media continue to treat them as treasures. It’s not true that people are fired because one wrong word has been said against them.
I’m sure the BBC will have tried very hard to keep him - his programmes are popular and his image is wholesome - but Huw Edwards, Phillip Schofield, Jermaine Jenas etc etc all had ‘good guy’ images too, and the tv companies were roundly criticised for maintaining those images in the face of evidence to the contrary.
He has resigned from his post as chancellor of a university, too. The same applies to that, IMO.
Cadenza123
I think that it's generally accepted that people are innocent until proven guilty.
Hear, hear. Well said. Gransnet is not a jury and doesn't have any evidence.
Irrespective of marital problems, I took agin him watching him 'paw' the King (then PC) on that renovation programme. So creepy.
Blades and his wife have been married for less than two years but it seems as though her accusation of one count of coercive behaviour has been sufficient to wreck his career.
I don't understand the reference to 'obtain a log'. Does this mean a record of behaviour?
Not all of Hackney has E post codes. The part of Hackney he lived in was Stoke Newington, which is N16 and is far from the East End, have a look on a map - just saying!
Is not one count of coercive behaviour enough?
Bridie22
Is not one count of coercive behaviour enough?
Of course it is IF he is found guilty by a jury adhering to the oath they will each be swearing. You appear not to need to hear the actual evidence before convicting him.
I can see the BBC would feel obliged to suspend him, but I think sacking him could prejudice a fair trial. It gives the impression they have found him guilty, which he may well be, but I prefer the jury to make that decision.
Best wait until the trial. 🙂
According to Lawyer Monthly the court documents name physical and emotional abuse.
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