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Will Huw Edwards get a custodial sentence?

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Sago Mon 16-Sept-24 08:28:18

Today is the day Huw Edwards will learn his fate.

It’s an interesting one, in our local newspaper men have received fines and community orders for similar offences.

I wonder if they will make an example of Huw, I cannot imagine he would have an easy time in prison and although people would argue he didn’t physically abuse any children the distribution of these images in itself is abuse.

I really couldn’t call this one.

Grandma70s Mon 16-Sept-24 14:58:05

I’m astonished by the vicious nature of most of these replies. I think the sentence is lenient at all.

MissAdventure Mon 16-Sept-24 15:00:02

The replies to most things are vicious lately.
Starmer is to blame for it all. (Apparently)

Casdon Mon 16-Sept-24 15:02:27

Rosie51

Casdon

I’ll ask again, does anybody know if this is the same length of sentence that would be given to others who had committed the same offence? If it isn’t, that’s not right, but if it is then the anger should be directed at the justice system?

I refer you to my post just above yours which I assume you hadn't seen smile

Sorry Rosie51, I hadn’t because your post came on while I was typing mine. Thanks for the information, that’s what I guessed might be the case.
There’s no point people saying he should have got a harsher sentence in that case, lobbying for harsher sentences for all similar offences is the way forward.

Grandma70s Mon 16-Sept-24 15:03:24

That should read I DON’T think the sentence is lenient.

Bridie22 Mon 16-Sept-24 15:08:55

Not surprised...very little mention of the victims, all about his drama.

Rosie51 Mon 16-Sept-24 15:12:51

Grandma70s

That should read I DON’T think the sentence is lenient.

You actually think a 6 months suspended sentence for being part of the reason children are photographed, and in this case videoed, being sexually abused is not lenient, but just and appropriate? These images so enjoyed by Huw Edwards and others like him are in existence for ever. Those children don't ever get to escape from the harm perpetuated on them by perverts, he gets 7 years on the sex offenders register. Total travesty of justice!

nanaK54 Mon 16-Sept-24 15:25:52

Rosie51

Grandma70s

That should read I DON’T think the sentence is lenient.

You actually think a 6 months suspended sentence for being part of the reason children are photographed, and in this case videoed, being sexually abused is not lenient, but just and appropriate? These images so enjoyed by Huw Edwards and others like him are in existence for ever. Those children don't ever get to escape from the harm perpetuated on them by perverts, he gets 7 years on the sex offenders register. Total travesty of justice!

Very, very well said Rosie51

eggplant Mon 16-Sept-24 15:28:54

What an almighty mess for his family. The shame.

MissAdventure Mon 16-Sept-24 15:31:10

8 out of 10 caught on possession of images like Edwards had don't serve custodial sentences.

nanaK54 Mon 16-Sept-24 15:33:27

MissAdventure

8 out of 10 caught on possession of images like Edwards had don't serve custodial sentences.

Which is an absolute disgrace in my humble

OldFrill Mon 16-Sept-24 15:35:55

HousePlantQueen

I have very mixed thoughts on this. Like most of you, I am disgusted, angered at anyone viewing or distributing these dreadful images, and I am sick at the thought of what these children endured, and continue to endure. However, (and it is a big however), I see no advantage to imprisoning Edwards. His life professionally and privately is finished, he will be a very lonely old man, and presumably steps can and will be taken to prevent him viewing these dreadful images again.

I recognise that this may go against the instinct of us all, and I loathe him for what he has done, but I see no reason, other than (justified) public fury to imprison Edwards

Absolutely agree.

MissAdventure Mon 16-Sept-24 15:36:16

Mine too.
I wonder if other factors are considered, when sentencing, such as the age of the perpetrator, where they will live, and with whom, when they finish their sentence?

MissAdventure Mon 16-Sept-24 15:37:52

Reported above.

eazybee Mon 16-Sept-24 15:45:05

Huw Edwards is, I imagine, in possession of a considerable income, having been given the extra pay while on suspension. He will be able to access insurance, bank accounts, work (should anyone wish to employ him) and live his daily life as he wishes, although probably banned from public life.
The severity of the sentence underlies the severity of the crime, but the images he enjoyed will continue to be produced and other innocents trapped in these evil webs, because he got away with it. I wonder how long before he recovers from his mental issues?

Sago Mon 16-Sept-24 15:46:47

Giving such lenient sentences is normalising the heinous act of looking at child pornography.

MissAdventure Mon 16-Sept-24 15:52:02

I agree.
I think any crime of that nature should carry an automatic time behind bars.

nanaK54 Mon 16-Sept-24 15:53:04

Sago

Giving such lenient sentences is normalising the heinous act of looking at child pornography.

Absolutely

Kate1949 Mon 16-Sept-24 15:56:10

I can't imagine what these children go through. I suffered and witnessed violence as a child and I know someone who was sexually abused. It destroys lives whilst the perpetrators go merrily on their way.

westendgirl Mon 16-Sept-24 15:57:37

House plant Queen , well said.

Mollygo Mon 16-Sept-24 16:19:23

westendgirl

House plant Queen , well said.

Likewise. Well said HPQ.

Is his behaviour acceptable? No.
Should he be punished. Yes
But in the current climate of emptying prisons of non-violent offenders, a non-custodial sentence is what I expected.

Luckygirl3 Mon 16-Sept-24 16:41:46

It seems to me that this sentence (and the information that this is about standard for this crime) carries no deterrent element in it. If the people accessing this stuff knew that they might get a prison sentence then this might put them off.

The fact that this is considered a lesser crime than actually producing this stuff ignores the fact that, whatever stage in the process the involvement happens, it still perpetuates the trade. It would not be produced if there were no market for it, and at the end of this chain are innocent children.

Rosie51 Mon 16-Sept-24 16:51:18

Mollygo

westendgirl

House plant Queen , well said.

Likewise. Well said HPQ.

Is his behaviour acceptable? No.
Should he be punished. Yes
But in the current climate of emptying prisons of non-violent offenders, a non-custodial sentence is what I expected.

But doesn't that in essence mean the only punishment he's received is to be on the sex offenders register for 7 years? No community service, no fine, just go on a list. A non-custodial sentence really isn't a punishment unless he intends to enjoy (and gets caught!) more of the same photos in the next two years.

The sexually abused children in the photos he so enjoyed live with their abuse and the knowledge those images will be viewed by hundreds, even thousands, of perverts for the rest of their lives.

westendgirl Mon 16-Sept-24 16:52:03

I suspect that any perpetrators will find their lives a complete misery after sentencing too. In the days of social media it is incredibly difficult to keep any sentence a secret.

Iam64 Mon 16-Sept-24 16:59:45

The non custodial sentence has no connection to the fact our prisons are over crowded. It’s the kind of sentence offenders like Edwards receive under current guidelines. In addition to the 6 months hmp suspended for two years, he is to attend a 40 day programme designed to prevent him re-offending. He is to sign the sex offender register.

I heard on radio 5 around mid day, that the Defence barrister said their psychiatrist assessed Edwards as low risk. I heard the probation officer assessed him as medium risk which to me seems a more accurate assessment. The Probation Officer will have specialised in this type of assessment. He advised Edwards be sentenced to a programme aimed at reducing the risk he poses and that he not be allowed access to the internet other than on machines that could be checked to ensure he isn’t accessing inappropriate material.

Edwards’ barrister claimed his client had ‘no memory of viewing any particular images’. He said Edwards did not get any gratification from viewing the images. He said Williams ‘sought out Edwards’ rather than the other way round. Mitigation ?!

I don’t see how a suspended sentence in the absence of attempts to monitor internet use can give any protection to children.

Sexual attraction to children is not something men easily control. It’s also frighteningly common in all societies. I believe we are in the early stages of understanding, accepting and attempting to prevent it

MissInterpreted Mon 16-Sept-24 17:04:19

Grandma70s

That should read I DON’T think the sentence is lenient.

What??? I'm staggered by that. I totally agree with Rosie51 here. I believe that anyone convicted of offences relating to child abuse - yes, even 'just' looking at images like this - should face an automatic custodial sentence. The child victims of this abuse face a lifetime of repercussions.