Real concern - New white supremacist group in UK

Racism in all its shape and form is always going to raise its ugly head in any society at any time .

Antisemitism has existed in the UK since the 13th century in York .
If these young men have parents with racist views their judgement will be influenced by them .

Last week I travelled into an area which is considered dangerous and not frequented by any of my white neighbours .
I encountered it on the bus against me .
Nothing dramatic happened .
I told my black friends and they said that they've noticed that there is an anti white feeling .
But they all experience racism against them on a regular basis .
You can't change the colour of your skin and believe me it feels horrible .
Yesterday out shopping an Asian man accidentally barged into my flowers snapping some heads off .
The guy next to me said that it was due to his being " coloured".
Of course not !
He then began to rant about our country becoming third world due to emigration .

I'm slowly watching racism increasing in my area , which is considered nice , middle class and white .
When I went to school we mixed together without a problem .
My friends were Asian , African , Jewish and Arab .
But now I notice that the teenagers have segregated themselves - they aren't mixing .

And that's how it starts .

When my husband worked in Singapore he said there was a lot of racism between Malaysian and Chinese people. Really noticeable. It is not confined to one race.

But now I notice that the teenagers have segregated themselves - they aren't mixing .

"White" teenagers?

nanna8

When my husband worked in Singapore he said there was a lot of racism between Malaysian and Chinese people. Really noticeable. It is not confined to one race.

It certainly is not.

I live opposite a large senior school and have noticed that the children seem to be going to and from school in their ethnic groups.

More noticeable around the High Road, Wimpy, tea and coffee shops at weekends.

eggplant

Those who feel ignored, what would they like to say?

As Tommy said: Hear me, See me.
I volunteer with young women who live on run down social housing estates. They feel forgotten, and ignored.

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eggplant
Those who feel ignored, what would they like to say?
As Tommy said: Hear me, See me.
I volunteer with young women who live on run down social housing estates. They feel forgotten, and ignored.“

I get that, but what do they actually want?

What would they like to say and do?

Tommy? Tommy who?

I'd be very concerned, as a few posters here are suggesting, that schools be responsible for imparting any form of political instruction early on to this group. Concerned for the welfare of the teachers, I mean.
Most knowledge is gained from tiktok, which is more far reaching than classroom instruction anyway. And more dangerous. It has become universal, not just UK.

eggplant

Tommy? Tommy who?

Rock Opera, Tommy, The Who. 1960s

Ah Roger Daltrey has something to say about society perhaps?

MaizieD

eggplant

Tommy? Tommy who?

Rock Opera, Tommy, The Who. 1960s

Sorry, 1970s

If we are talking about terrorism in this country then no I have very little concern about white supremacist groups.

WHY are people so concerned that they feel the need to gather in these groups? Do they have a point to make (even if they're not making it in the right way)

nanna8

When my husband worked in Singapore he said there was a lot of racism between Malaysian and Chinese people. Really noticeable. It is not confined to one race.

A friend of mine who I met years ago at ante natal, hails from Penang and is ethnically Chinese and Buddhist, she's always told me that, the Chinese don't really get on with their Muslim compatriots in Malaysia. Ethnic divisions are sometimes exported abroad and there are deeper divisions within some immigrant communities than there are with the indigenous populations. .

Tribal wars abound.

Perhaps they feel ignored and threatened. Perhaps they feel there are not enough jobs available for them. Perhaps they feel no one listens to them. Perhaps they feel other groups are being favoured and given more than they are. Perhaps they feel indigenous people are being persecuted and they are treated more harshly than non indigenous people.

Perhaps they feel ignored and threatened. Perhaps they feel there are not enough jobs available for them. Perhaps they feel no one listens to them. Perhaps they feel other groups are being favoured and given more than they are. Perhaps they feel indigenous people are being persecuted and they are treated more harshly than non indigenous people

All of this>

indigenous people are being persecuted

Persecuted? How exactly? Ignored, excluded, left behind, undervalued. Yes I see that.

How is any of this connected with immigration?

nanna8

Perhaps they feel ignored and threatened. Perhaps they feel there are not enough jobs available for them. Perhaps they feel no one listens to them. Perhaps they feel other groups are being favoured and given more than they are. Perhaps they feel indigenous people are being persecuted and they are treated more harshly than non indigenous people.

Maybe they just like blaming others.

Totally ignoring any group of people, in any walk of like, anywhere, for a length of time,
is asking for trouble.

Or perhaps worse, dismissing them.

At the same time as we are being told of the importance to listening to terrorist groups, or the problem will continue, we are also being told we shouldnt listen to the concerns of this particular group.

Or belittling a group, or patronising them, or any number of things.
Or making up excuses, reasons.
Anything, rather than taking anything a group has to say, at all seriously.

Yes all of that and then being completely surprised by the Brexit vote or the support for Reform.