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Real concern - New white supremacist group in UK

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Wyllow3 Tue 01-Oct-24 11:32:27

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ydnqdq38wo

"An extreme right-wing group with links to a violent white supremacist collective has been recruiting young men to support its efforts to "revive" what it called England's "warrior culture" by masquerading as a sports club, a BBC investigation has found.

Active Club (AC), which hails World War Two Nazi leader Adolf Hitler as a hero, claims to be "peaceful and legal" and focus on male friendship and fitness.

The group arrived in the UK in 2023 and has since set up branches in Northern Ireland, Scotland and various regions of England, including the North West, the Midlands, London and East Anglia.

Its closed social networks contain:

*Photographs of members celebrating Hitler's birthday with a swastika-covered cake

*Images of members wearing t-shirts emblazoned with the term Waffen-SS, the name of the Nazi combat branch during World War Two

*Evidence of recruits brandishing racist banners in public places
Messages in the wake of the Southport stabbings encouraging people "not to sit idly by"

*Guidance on how to avoid police detection in the riots that followed those stabbings

And further information.

Wyllow3 Sun 06-Oct-24 20:31:07

Went googling and found

"The preference is to use 'First Nations people', 'Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people(s)', or 'Indigenous Australians'. Choose one and stay consistent, including in data tables and graphs. Use capital letters, it's a noun – First Nations, Aboriginal Australian, Indigenous Australian, Torres Strait Islander."

www.apsc.gov.au/working-aps/diversity-and-inclusion/diversity-inclusion-news/first-nations-vocabulary-using-culturally-appropriate-language-and-terminology#:~:text=The%20preference%20is%20to%20use,Indigenous%20Australian%2C%20Torres%20Strait%20Islander.

But the question of what nanna remains confusing to me.

Iam64 Sun 06-Oct-24 20:55:53

I’m relieved others are asking nanna8 what she means by Indigenous people. My understanding was as Wyllow sets iut at 20.31 today yet my reading of nanna’s comment suggested she meant white British in the UK. We surely all know we are a country of mixed heritage. Our family history on dad’s side goes back to 1640, my dna says French, Danish, Northern European, Irish and Scottish which sounds about right,

I’m not convinced by the people who claim no one listens to them, they shouted loud and clear after the Southport murders

JaneJudge Sun 06-Oct-24 21:18:12

Nanna8 is in oz so means aboriginal? Presumably
They’ve been treated appallingly and it’s had generational consequences

M0nica Mon 07-Oct-24 07:54:58

I am of good immigrant stocck - half Irish - but I have northern and southern Irish blood and the northeren Irish side has a Scottish surname and would have migrated to Northern Ireland from Scotland after the Flight of the Earls in the early 17th century when the British government offered land in northern Ireland to people of good Protestant stock in the rest of the UK. The offer was mainly taken up by highland Scots, whose living conditions and tenure made anything an improvement.

I think what no one has taken on board in this modern age is that movement of people in large groups from one part of the world to another has been happening throughout human history.

That is now Homo Sapiens became universal, by moving out from Africa to the rest of the world and movement of people has been going on every since, whether it is the movement of the beaker people who brought Bronze technology to Britain, or Vandals, Alanas and Goths whose movement round Eurasia put paid to the Roman empire, or the Mongols, or Vikings and Germanic people coming to Britain after the Romans, or Europeans moving onwards to populate North America and Australia, to the Irish, to those coming to Britain today. It is inevitable and there is little we can do stop it.

At sometime in the future we may see the tide turning as people flee Brtain for whatever reason and start to move eastwards.

Cumbrianmale56 Wed 09-Oct-24 19:54:47

I suppose one of the less well remembered immigrations into this country was the Vietnamese boat people in 1979/80. It was small compared with the previous waves of immigration in the 1960s, but around 50,000 Vietnamese people came to this country. I wonder if many chose Birmingham as their home as I saw several Vietnamese restaurants in the city earlier this year.

Fleurpepper Wed 09-Oct-24 20:11:29

HousePlantQueen

nanna8

I think there is a feeling that the indigenous people are being neglected. Which,in some instances, is probably true.

What is your understanding of "indigenous people"?

Well they are varied indeed- Celts, Romans, Angles, Saxons, Picts (and a few more), a variety of Vikings, Normans, Huguenots, oh, the list is endless. But for some, new waves of immigration became 'non native' as their skin was coloured.

petra Wed 09-Oct-24 20:26:52

Cumbrianmale
Thousands of Vietnamese people are still being trafficked into this country.
Tragically 39 of them suffocated in the back of a lorry.
Vietnam is one of the top 5 countries mentioned Re immigration into the UK.
Young girls are put to work in nail bars or sex work.
Young men ( and boys) are put to work in cannabis farms