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Whitewavemark2 Tue 15-Oct-24 07:18:42

With only 3 weeks to go, perhaps we can start to watch the shenanigans taking place in the USA.

Trump is warning America of his intention post election.

“Donald Trump has provoked an angry backlash from Democrats after calling for the US armed forces to be turned against his political adversaries when voters go to the polls at next month’s presidential election.
In comments that added further fuel to fears of an authoritarian crackdown if he recaptures the White House, the Republican nominee said the military or national guard should be deployed against opponents that he called “the enemy within” when the election takes place on 5 November.
He singled out the California congressman, Adam Schiff, who was the lead prosecutor in the ex-president’s first impeachment trial, as posing a bigger threat to a free and fair election than foreign terrorists or illegal immigrants, his usual prime target for abuse.
Trump’s comments, to Fox News in response to a question on possible election “chaos”, triggered an angry reaction from Kamala Harris’s campaign, which likened them to previous remarks that he would be a dictator “on day one” of a second presidency and his suggestions that the US constitution should be terminated to overturn the 2020 election result, which he falsely claims was stolen by Joe Biden”.

Babs03 Sat 02-Nov-24 18:03:21

Syracute

This is what it actually is a call for violence against Lynn Cheney . Trump is a dangerous man . I hope enough people remember his influence on the tragedy of January 6 .

6 people died when Trump supporters descended upon Capitol Hill. And yet the man still calls for violence from his supporters. And this is what was reported about Lynn Cheney

'Trump said during an onstage discussion with disgraced Fox News host Tucker Carlson that Cheney would not be a "war hawk" if "guns are trained on her face." He called her "a stupid person," “a bad person," and a “very dumb individual."

And this is a man who wants to be president of one of the biggest super powers in the world. He sounds like a bully in the playground. So if he loses the election again how many will die when his thugs are let loose again?
Is this what really what we have come to?

Babs03 Sat 02-Nov-24 18:04:07

Correction - Is this really what we have come to?

Galaxy Sat 02-Nov-24 18:06:55

No it is not what we have come to as has been explained over and over.

Babs03 Sat 02-Nov-24 18:17:27

Galaxy

No it is not what we have come to as has been explained over and over.

Ouch.
Will go to the back of the class then.

Galaxy Sat 02-Nov-24 18:20:38

To be fair it has only been explained once on here but lots in another threadgrin.
I am exasperated because I am watching Alistair Campbell of all people say this too. But that's not your faultsmile

Dinahmo Sat 02-Nov-24 18:21:29

I think that Trump is deliberately inarticulate- it's the way in which the majority of his followers speak and so they think he is just like them.

As regards the polls, apparently the Republican pollsters are claiming large numbers in support of Trump so that when Harris wins, they can claim it was a fix.

The Republicans are still demanding the correct figures to be revealed concerning the last election. They just won't accept the info concerning the results.

Babs03 Sat 02-Nov-24 18:22:00

Galaxy

To be fair it has only been explained once on here but lots in another threadgrin.
I am exasperated because I am watching Alistair Campbell of all people say this too. But that's not your faultsmile

That's ok, anyone watching Alistair Campbell has a right to feel exasperated. Not my favourite person.
xx

MaizieD Sat 02-Nov-24 18:27:28

Babs03

Galaxy

No it is not what we have come to as has been explained over and over.

Ouch.
Will go to the back of the class then.

I'll join you there. Babs03. I haven't the faintest notion about what it is that's been explained over and over...

Allsorts Sat 02-Nov-24 18:59:47

I just don't understand Americans at all now. Can’t believe what their normal is. Trump should be behind bars yet he has faithful supporters.

Babs03 Sat 02-Nov-24 19:31:02

There is no normal anymore Allsorts, is a complete circus politically over there, used to think the UK was bad enough but thank goodness we haven't become that bad....yet.
And yes Trump should have faced jail time years ago.

petra Sat 02-Nov-24 19:46:41

Galaxy

To be fair it has only been explained once on here but lots in another threadgrin.
I am exasperated because I am watching Alistair Campbell of all people say this too. But that's not your faultsmile

I’d give up if I were you. You won’t get through. 🤦🏼‍♀️

Galaxy Sat 02-Nov-24 19:51:09

So for example if I said bloody Alistair Campbell, it's alright for him to support (well initiate some might say) the Iraq war, it wont be him who is being shot, I wonder if he would be so keen if it was him facing the bullets, this does not mean I am wishing death on Alistair Campbell.
That is my last try.
There are numerous real things to critique Trump on, this is not one of them.

petra Sat 02-Nov-24 19:52:53

Allsorts

I just don't understand Americans at all now. Can’t believe what their normal is. Trump should be behind bars yet he has faithful supporters.

Some Americans couldn’t care less if he should be in prison.
All they know is: they had more dollars in their pockets when he was last in power.
Why do you think poor black people vote for him 🤷‍♀️ Money.

MaizieD Sat 02-Nov-24 21:00:06

Galaxy

So for example if I said bloody Alistair Campbell, it's alright for him to support (well initiate some might say) the Iraq war, it wont be him who is being shot, I wonder if he would be so keen if it was him facing the bullets, this does not mean I am wishing death on Alistair Campbell.
That is my last try.
There are numerous real things to critique Trump on, this is not one of them.

Apologies. I've 'got it' now.

I agree.

Galaxy Sat 02-Nov-24 21:35:28

Phew. Thanks Maizie, I appreciate that.

petra Sat 02-Nov-24 21:51:21

This reminds me of a piece on the radio today. Egypt have imprisoned a British/ Egyptian citizen.
While is was shadow foreign secretary David Lammy continuously badgered the government.
Now he is foreign secretary not a word of protest from him.
As said by his sister.

Wyllow3 Sun 03-Nov-24 14:22:09

"Frantic campaigning by Trump amid Iowa poll shock"

Its looking very close.

The Guardian has a "live feed" gong now on the election
www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2024/nov/03/donald-trump-kamala-harris-iowa-poll-us-presidential-election-live?filterKeyEvents=false&page=with:block-672770098f0869c6d52e53d5#block-672770098f0869c6d52e53d5

halfpint1 Sun 03-Nov-24 15:12:02

Nope. He followerd up with very negative remarks about her. I believe he knows
Exactly what words he wants to sink in

Galaxy Sun 03-Nov-24 15:24:29

I am probably jinxing it but I am beginnjng to think Harris will win.

Babs03 Sun 03-Nov-24 15:37:56

Galaxy

I am probably jinxing it but I am beginnjng to think Harris will win.

I feel this too so maybe we will both jinx it.
Whatever happens it will be dangerously close I think, and this will lead to Trump declaring it has been fixed and encouraging his supporters to go on the rampage again.

Babs03 Sun 03-Nov-24 15:41:19

apple.news/AjKaD7t9eTkKmnJWXWj2jRQ

Nmama Sun 03-Nov-24 16:59:19

American here. We're not ALL crazy, thank goodness, but I am gathering a bunch of snacks to eat when I'm anxious on election day and the days after because I don't think doing a lot of cooking is going to be on my mind.

The Washington Post (behind a payway, alas) has a story about a grass-roots campaign going on in women's restrooms: in the stalls, women are putting up 3x3 post-it notes saying "Your vote is YOUR vote", "Your husband / boyfriend doesn't need to know how you voted", and so on. My own guess is that a lot of American women want control of their own reproductive health, as I've said before, so in my mind, at least, there are a lot of unknowns.

Trump had his first wife buried at one of his golf courses. (Not the Scottish one, you'll be happy to hear). Here's a link to a picture of her grave: www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-real-2023-photos-213300066.html

Whadda guy.

Nmama Sun 03-Nov-24 17:02:31

I'm sorry, I've just seen that the Daily Mail is the original source of the pictures of Ivana Trump's grave, so perhaps you've seen it. The website I referred to, Snopes, is dedicating to figuring out the truth about stories in the news . . . and they say it's true.

foxie48 Sun 03-Nov-24 17:41:28

I'm feeling very concerned for the US. I also think Trump is preparing for defeat and because he can't be seen as a "loser" he's playing the "election stolen" card again. I think every Republican politician should come out to declare that the election is fair and legal but they won't. Sadly it seems they are also frightened for their families.

MaizieD Sun 03-Nov-24 17:44:33

This is purportedly the transcript of part of Trumps speech to a rally yesterday. Courtesy X/twitter

x.com/SSantiagoMayer/status/1852804143561445674

Images are always a bit dodgy but I hope you can read it.

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