Its Keir Starmer, not Kier Starmer

Oops
mustn't call them Labour

escaped

I'm assuming that, because of the suffix -ier on words, which is often pronunced as -eer, our automatic spelling of his name defaults to Kier on hearing it.
I think the sound comes from Middle French, so you get cavalier, grenadier etc. and more modern words like cashier.

I read an interesting article about KS in a German newspaper recently, and they too obviously have problems.
Starmers Vorname wird »Kier« ausgesprochen. Starmer's name is pronounced Kier.

Except that in French the pronunciation of ier is more ee-ay (ay as in day). The origin of Keir is Gaelic and Scottish.

Maybe more Germanic/Dutch then?

escaped

Oops
mustn't call them Labour

Please yourself what you call them.

I commented that there are those who just can't bring themselves to acknowledge that the Labour Party is now in government, so insist on calling them 'Labour'. It was just a comment, and at no point did I say that anyone 'must' do anything. If you must make snide comments, please don't twist people's words?

Calendargirl

I find it more annoying that the Princess Of Wales is often called ‘Katherine’.

It’s Catherine with a C, not Katherine with a K.

Sometimes she is called "Kate Middleton" !!!

Always assumed Keir was named after the remarkable Keir Hardie
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keir_Hardie

escaped

Maybe more Germanic/Dutch then?

Scottish makes sense to me. Like the surname Weir.

Freya5

Many people will not really care.

But some obviously do.😁

I’d say Be kind
but look at the mess that’s got us into, and it wouldn’t be reciprocated.

Oh lighten up Doodledog!
I wasn't going to trawl back over threads to see whether the word was must or should or whatever. It was just the message that came across to me.
My comment here was not snidey, I had no idea who made the post in question.

Mamie

escaped

Maybe more Germanic/Dutch then?

Scottish makes sense to me. Like the surname Weir.

👍

Apparently he hated his name in the early days! 😆

I also found this!
Keir is a Village in Dumfries and Galloway, Scotland, UK. The village was the birthplace of Kirkpatrick Macmillan, the inventor of the bicycle. A plaque on his home, Courthill Smithy, commemorates this. He is buried in the parish church.

He was misnamed at birth.Keir Hardie will be spinning in his grave at how his labour party is performing not to mention the "sir" who is running it.Its no more labour than Thatchers government was .

loopyloo

I thought I heard somewhere that Cate had to start spelling it Kate to differentiate her initial from the Queen's.

Which Queen? Queen Caroline? I thought that our late Queen was called Elizabeth (Alexandra Mary)or Liz at a push. Am I missing something?

DH and I have been married 54 tears, my Sil persists in sending cards to Kieth.

kittylester

DH and I have been married 54 tears, my Sil persists in sending cards to Kieth.

😆
Like Neil, Neil or Niel!

or Neal

Indigo8

loopyloo

I thought I heard somewhere that Cate had to start spelling it Kate to differentiate her initial from the Queen's.

Which Queen? Queen Caroline? I thought that our late Queen was called Elizabeth (Alexandra Mary)or Liz at a push. Am I missing something?

Queen Camilla?

Queer Stammer?

Mamie

Indigo8

loopyloo

I thought I heard somewhere that Cate had to start spelling it Kate to differentiate her initial from the Queen's.

Which Queen? Queen Caroline? I thought that our late Queen was called Elizabeth (Alexandra Mary)or Liz at a push. Am I missing something?

Queen Camilla?

I suspect this was a kind of ‘not my queen’ post, or one saying that Camilla was to be Princess Consort, which was the case until the late Queen Elizabeth II said it was her wish that Camilla be Queen Consort.

Witzend

Goodness knows, Wyllow3 - it’s something that does often make me wonder!

On a similar theme, I’ve previously seen threads about butter, where posters say they love Lurpack and won’t buy anything else. So if they’ve bought dozens of packs of it, how come they still can’t spell Lurpak?

Oh dear, am I guilty?

I can spell Keir
i before e except after K.

KS is enough, he is the pm and labour leader.

Not guilty, Witzend!

Some packs are still 250g eg Waitrose own brand but I wanted Lurpak for a change and most of thd branded ones are now 200g.
However, I can't spell the

Allsorts

KS is enough, he is the pm and labour leader.

Sir K?

Although that could mean Sir Kay, one of King Arthur's knights.

I wholeheartedly agree with you paddyann.