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Will Messrs Reeves and Raynor Still Be Around This Time Next Year?

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mae13 Sun 27-Oct-24 08:58:02

Sir Keir's ratings have nosedived so badly since the election that I wonder which moves he might be planning for his first Cabinet re-shuffle.
He strikes me as having an underlying ruthless streak and won't hesitate to jettison certain unpopular "comrades" in order to shore up his own position.
Whenever I see a media photo of Keir, Angela and Rachel grinning idiotically at each other I just have to think "I bet two of you will have got your P45's by next year......"

Casdon Sun 27-Oct-24 18:08:35

I think the first reshuffle may see Louise Haigh moved or replaced, but I don’t see that it’s likely that either Reeves or Rayner will be moved any time soon. There isn’t a need to remove ministers who deliver on the government’s agenda, whether or not people, particularly those who didn’t vote Labour, like it or not.

ronib Sun 27-Oct-24 18:16:40

Casdon interesting point you made- ministers who deliver on the government’s agenda . So forgive the cynicism but I have a nostalgia for the last government’s 40 hospitals pledge.
It was very convincing at the time and it is still in the pending tray.
Masters of spin ….

Casdon Sun 27-Oct-24 18:24:38

The last government delivered on only one of the forty hospitals included in their pledge though ronib. I’m hoping that Labour will do rather better for the NHS, including a replacement and renovations plan which will be more comprehensive. We’ll have to wait and see.

Calendargirl Sun 27-Oct-24 18:32:14

Yes, Rachel’s hair does not look as good as it used to.

I bet she is very stressed about the forthcoming budget.

She certainly doesn’t look so ‘bouncy’ and cheerful as she did when they won the election.

kittylester Sun 27-Oct-24 18:34:45

I hope he removes the eternally annoying Bridget Phillipson.

Wyllow3 Sun 27-Oct-24 18:44:37

Casdon

I think the first reshuffle may see Louise Haigh moved or replaced, but I don’t see that it’s likely that either Reeves or Rayner will be moved any time soon. There isn’t a need to remove ministers who deliver on the government’s agenda, whether or not people, particularly those who didn’t vote Labour, like it or not.

Why Louise Haigh? (just wondering) - because of the investment thing?

RosiesMaw2 Sun 27-Oct-24 19:03:01

Mesdames please- they are women.

seadragon Sun 27-Oct-24 19:04:45

I'll just leave this here: "Mark Carney endorses Labour’s shadow chancellor Rachel Reeves" - www.ft.com/content/13aeb762-5636-4423-b964-9128e2d9137d -

Casdon Sun 27-Oct-24 19:19:42

Wyllow3

Casdon

I think the first reshuffle may see Louise Haigh moved or replaced, but I don’t see that it’s likely that either Reeves or Rayner will be moved any time soon. There isn’t a need to remove ministers who deliver on the government’s agenda, whether or not people, particularly those who didn’t vote Labour, like it or not.

Why Louise Haigh? (just wondering) - because of the investment thing?

I was thinking if the P&O gaffe, yes - I don’t think she’d understood the implications of her remarks, which will worry him.

Allira Sun 27-Oct-24 19:41:01

seadragon

I'll just leave this here: "Mark Carney endorses Labour’s shadow chancellor Rachel Reeves" - www.ft.com/content/13aeb762-5636-4423-b964-9128e2d9137d -

Really? 😯

growstuff Sun 27-Oct-24 20:10:14

kittylester

I hope he removes the eternally annoying Bridget Phillipson.

Why do you find her annoying?

IMO she's the first Education Secretary I can remember who actually cares about what happens with real pupils.

Calendargirl Sun 27-Oct-24 20:15:13

Why do you find her annoying?

It’s the way she talks somehow, her mouth moves about in an irritating fashion.

kittylester Sun 27-Oct-24 21:15:29

I find her smug as well.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 27-Oct-24 21:19:39

Strewth!

Whitewavemark2 Sun 27-Oct-24 21:26:14

Allira

seadragon

I'll just leave this here: "Mark Carney endorses Labour’s shadow chancellor Rachel Reeves" - www.ft.com/content/13aeb762-5636-4423-b964-9128e2d9137d -

Really? 😯

As does the IMF and a large majority of economists.

There are a few economists who disagree with Reeves stance. An example of one such economist would be Richard Murphy who was employed by Jeremy Corbyn as an advisor when he was Labour leader. There are others, but economist are largely behind Reeves in her growth strategy.

MissAdventure Sun 27-Oct-24 21:57:53

More importantly, what do they think of her haircut?

Allira Sun 27-Oct-24 22:17:28

Where's Annaliese Dodds these days?
She was Shadow Chancellor a while ago.

Casdon Sun 27-Oct-24 22:19:02

They wouldn’t care if she wore a Donald Trump wig as long as she knew what she was doing I’m sure. Luckily Angela’s hair is still looking good, and I’m positive that indicates she’s on top of her brief.

Allira Sun 27-Oct-24 22:20:12

Nobody can best Angela's hair!

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sun 27-Oct-24 22:21:44

Angela’s hair (mostly) isn’t her own. It’s extensions. My hairdresser isn’t impressed by them but what do I know? Nowt.
😁

Casdon Sun 27-Oct-24 22:24:03

You can’t know much I guess, because it looks good, and that’s what matters in the hair game, obviously, going by the thread comments.

OldFrill Sun 27-Oct-24 22:33:00

Allira

Where's Annaliese Dodds these days?
She was Shadow Chancellor a while ago.

At the hairdresser

Allira Sun 27-Oct-24 22:34:27

OldFrill

Allira

Where's Annaliese Dodds these days?
She was Shadow Chancellor a while ago.

At the hairdresser

😁

Actually, I should think she can just Wash and Go!
Natural curls.

Maggiemaybe Sun 27-Oct-24 23:09:01

Oh dear, I have very poor hair. Mea culpa. It’s always been an embarrassment, but I didn’t realise until now that good hair was a measure of professional competency.

I’m actually rather envious of Rachel’s shiny bob.

biglouis Sun 27-Oct-24 23:28:46

I later did some research on the "cottage homes" and found some images of children (2 boys and a girl) with the pudding basin hair cut who used to live there. Obviously Im not going to post them. Apparently the buildings were abandoned in the 1970s and fell into disrepair. However they have now been restored and turned into classy appartments. I would like to bet the current tenants dont cut their own hair.