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Tommy Robinson jailed for contempt of court

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Jaxjacky Mon 28-Oct-24 15:12:02

Sky News; good in my opinion.

Grantanow Tue 29-Oct-24 23:32:41

Robinson was clearly guilty of contempt and got what he deserved. End of story.

DrWatson Wed 30-Oct-24 01:21:14

For Lady Gracie -- "scapegoat"?? HOW?? In this instance, he was repeatedly caught telling lies, and went right back to them when he felt like it. Hence he's been further jailed for breaking that undertaking.

He should STAY IN JAIL until he removes all of his online poison from wherever it's been placed. You must be supremely gullible.

whywhywhy Wed 30-Oct-24 02:07:09

Good riddance to him!

Namsnanny Wed 30-Oct-24 13:25:45

I've just realized that ofcourse his case was a civil case, not criminal (it didnt sink in for me that contempt of court is not considered criminal).

He has been confined in Belmarsh Prison, I believe it is for the worst offenders of criminal offences. Such as murder, the worst kinds of sex offences etc.

Strange that the authorities feel comfortable with putting someone guilty of a civil crime in with the countries worst criminals.
Axel Rudakubana is in there.

Like TR or loath him, one killed undefended children, the other filmed a documentary and released it.

Anyone who wants to live in a country where anyone of any political persuasion, of any religion, of any colour, is treated in this manner without questioning why, is deluded in my view.

MissInterpreted Wed 30-Oct-24 13:49:19

Contempt of court may not be a criminal offence, but let's not disregard the fact that SYL does have a lengthy criminal record, which includes assaulting a police office, fraud, public order offences and possession of drugs.

Namsnanny Wed 30-Oct-24 14:03:48

Record do not count.

Each offence is or should be, judged on it's own merit.

I say again love or loath TR, everyone with an interest on equality before the law should think long and hard about this sentence.

MissInterpreted Wed 30-Oct-24 14:06:46

Of course each case should be judged on its merits, but his record does stand for itself. I have a very thorough knowledge on the law of contempt of court - it's something I dealt with on a daily basis throughout my career. I have no qualms whatsoever about his sentence. He is a thoroughly vile individual who thinks he is above the law, and quite frankly, he deserves everything he gets.

jasper16 Wed 30-Oct-24 14:28:36

Namsnanny

I've just realized that ofcourse his case was a civil case, not criminal (it didnt sink in for me that contempt of court is not considered criminal).

He has been confined in Belmarsh Prison, I believe it is for the worst offenders of criminal offences. Such as murder, the worst kinds of sex offences etc.

Strange that the authorities feel comfortable with putting someone guilty of a civil crime in with the countries worst criminals.
Axel Rudakubana is in there.

Like TR or loath him, one killed undefended children, the other filmed a documentary and released it.

Anyone who wants to live in a country where anyone of any political persuasion, of any religion, of any colour, is treated in this manner without questioning why, is deluded in my view.

Don't be so silly. Stop slithering around. SYS is an out and out racist. That is his raison d'etre. To hate and stir up hate.

What on earth has that got to do with the absolute tragedy that occurred in Southport?

growstuff Wed 30-Oct-24 14:33:12

Namsnanny

I've just realized that ofcourse his case was a civil case, not criminal (it didnt sink in for me that contempt of court is not considered criminal).

He has been confined in Belmarsh Prison, I believe it is for the worst offenders of criminal offences. Such as murder, the worst kinds of sex offences etc.

Strange that the authorities feel comfortable with putting someone guilty of a civil crime in with the countries worst criminals.
Axel Rudakubana is in there.

Like TR or loath him, one killed undefended children, the other filmed a documentary and released it.

Anyone who wants to live in a country where anyone of any political persuasion, of any religion, of any colour, is treated in this manner without questioning why, is deluded in my view.

So don't you believe that people should comply with the law of the land?

Are you an anarchist?

growstuff Wed 30-Oct-24 14:34:04

Namsnanny

Record do not count.

Each offence is or should be, judged on it's own merit.

I say again love or loath TR, everyone with an interest on equality before the law should think long and hard about this sentence.

Why?

He got what he deserved for disobeying a court order.

Wyllow3 Wed 30-Oct-24 14:42:57

When sentencing, the prior records of that individual are taken into account.

Belmarsh is " The prison is used for high-profile cases, particularly those concerning national security"

Robinson is on the UK individuals "watch list".

MissInterpreted Wed 30-Oct-24 15:31:33

And rightly so...

Iam64 Thu 31-Oct-24 08:31:59

Previous convictions will rightly be considered when bail or sentencing is considered. There’s no comparison between the Southport murderer and SYL and linking them in some kind of deluded attempt to minimise the risks posed by SYL is shocking

Wyllow3 Thu 31-Oct-24 10:02:51

(Posters might not be aware that a thread on the southport references was deleted in its entirety as it was speculation on an ongoing case where judge had requested respect for due process etc)

I've just checked Tommy Robinson X supporters and they are attempting to drag it in and make comparisons in a most nasty way, best left?

Galaxy Thu 31-Oct-24 10:18:49

Yes I saw that. Similar happened with Hugh Edwards. Lots of people didnt like people talking about that either.

Galaxy Thu 31-Oct-24 10:26:04

Latest article by Paul Embrey, who possibly should be made leader of the western world grin, is good at balancing the need for due process and the fundamental principle of innocent until proven guilty, with raising questions about the way it was handled.

Wyllow3 Thu 31-Oct-24 10:40:37

Tommy Robinsons followers busy making him into a martyr.

Namsnanny Thu 31-Oct-24 11:21:09

They dont have to, the Gov is happily pushing the pedal in that direction.
Any sensible person would draw less attention to him, not more, if they want him to disappear.

Growstuff are you an anarchist?
made me laugh🤣 no just someone who wants the country which was known for tolerance and free speech to become that again.
Not be turned into a semi communist state where by we cant speak because the laws are deliberately opaque so as to he unclear what the legal boundaries are.

Thus country has crossed the Rubicon.
MPs told they cant raise questions, Christians prosecuted for thinking, others on social media having inflated charges and sentences to make the rest of us frightened to speak out.

I do wish people could see the parties we used to vote for have changed, and none deserve our support.

Fleurpepper Thu 31-Oct-24 11:22:53

which is exactly what he wanted and calculated. He is so dangerous and manipulative.

Iam64 Thu 31-Oct-24 11:26:35

Namsnanny - we do not live in a communist state and where in the UK do you find Christians being persecuted?

MPs were rightly told not to raise questions about the case of the Southport murderer. Ill informed speculation caused riots. It’s essential the accused gets a fair trial as anything that could undermine that is unthinkable.

As for the rest of us being frightened to speak out - just what Trump’s shouty supporters claim.

JaneJudge Thu 31-Oct-24 11:27:11

I've noticed these thread about TR always attract new posters and that in itself curtails free speech

Namsnanny Thu 31-Oct-24 11:38:26

I realise people are too invsted in protecting their own beliefs to look at things differently.

I would probably have said very similar things myself a few years ago, to anyone speaking as I do now.
But for every hostile retort, there is a chance someone else might think twice.

ADAM SMITH CONNOR, look his story up.
No doubt you didn't read his story, as only a few covered it.

Just as no main stream media newspaper covered the last round of grooming gang sentences.
Or very little attention was given to the 14 year old beaten up when the riots were playing out.
One liners on the internet if your lucky.

Babs03 Thu 31-Oct-24 11:57:37

I imagine those with sympathy for this miscreant agree if not wholly but partially with his odious views. And the giveaway is the oft repeated mantra that people can’t speak out anymore or there is no freedom of speech. This is utter hogwash as proved by the fact that on every forum they get to air their dubious opinions, and even have Farage and Tice sitting in the HoC to represent them.

Fleurpepper Thu 31-Oct-24 11:57:54

'I realise people are too invsted in protecting their own beliefs to look at things differently.'

and then say that Christians are being persecuted. Where? How? When? Evidence, please,

Galaxy Thu 31-Oct-24 12:01:29

I know women who have won court cases in order to ensure freedom of speech babs so what you think about me or anyone for discussing freedom of speech doesnt really matter.