Gransnet forums

News & politics

Trump Inauguration and Martin Luther King Memorial Day

(290 Posts)
Bea65 Mon 20-Jan-25 15:07:29

Today it’s Memorial Day for MLK in the US overshadowed by the TRUMP Inauguration … wonder what he would think of US politics …

Galaxy Thu 23-Jan-25 01:03:37

No in the uk but the people on my timeline are in the states, both of us will tend to hear more from those who have similar views to ourselves, my views are gender critical views, so that is a specific section of the lgb community.

nanna8 Thu 23-Jan-25 01:12:19

The Americans I know all actually voted for Trump and are looking forward to a new era of positivity. They are certainly not ignorant, uninformed or racists. We shall see but I would say ‘don’t judge a book by its cover’.

imaround Thu 23-Jan-25 01:43:33

Galaxy: I'm a bit confused, I do not understand how you being gender critical has anything to do with my post regarding reversing equal opportunity for ALL groups. I must have missed something.

Nanna8 - I cant recall ever saying anyone was racist, uninformed, or ignorant. I am glad that your Trump supporting friends are happy with the outcome of the election. I hope it works out for them they way they envision it will.

Galaxy Thu 23-Jan-25 06:12:49

You asked a question about where I was and expressed surprise that I knew lgb people who thought differently, I explained why that might be.

Allsorts Thu 23-Jan-25 07:40:49

Bee,mJust because you don't like an address made, or agree with certain things, does not mean you hate the person, far from it. I don't know what paths my grandchildren take for instance but wouldn't stop me loving or wanting their happiness.
Trump has likeable qualities, however I thought the way he rubbished Bidens time in office at his Inauguration embarrassingly rude and arrogant and to compare himself almost as a Messiah stupid. I think we have gone too far with certain things.
I sincerely hope the Amerucan people get what they voted for.
Same with the Bishop, I wouldn't go to one of her services, didn't like her address but don't doubt others do.

bee16B Thu 23-Jan-25 09:07:23

Trump has likeable qualities Please give me a couple? I'm intrigued.

Wyllow3 Thu 23-Jan-25 10:01:49

imaround

No. Here is (one of) the rule he overturned

www.dol.gov/agencies/ofccp/executive-order-11246/as-amended

It sounds like a great thing, hiring on merit only, but what it really does is allow the government (and companies) to do whatever they want to because no one is checking any more.

It will affect women, minorities, the LGBTQ community and possibly Muslims to be honest.

This still concerns me - they have removed affirmative action, but we are getting 2 different versions up thread -

so to ask, what are the legal means left where an employer is racist or misogynist and the best person doesn't get the job because of prejudice even tho best on merit?

These prejudices haven't gone away.

Allira Thu 23-Jan-25 10:25:15

bee16B

*Trump has likeable qualities* Please give me a couple? I'm intrigued.

He seems to be fond of his children?

Um, trying to think of another one 🤔

Wyllow3 Thu 23-Jan-25 13:12:19

"Teacher layoffs, bigger classes: Potential federal education cuts could hit GOP’s base hardest"

edition.cnn.com/2025/01/16/politics/trump-education-funding-invs/index.html?iid=cnn_buildContentRecirc_end_recirc

"When the coal mines closed in Bell County, Kentucky, a community that once powered the nation was left forgotten, with few well-paying jobs or prospects. Many of its residents now live in poverty among empty storefronts and the stunning vistas of the Appalachian Mountains.

It’s the sort of place where President-elect Donald Trump’s “America First” message resonated – but also where some of his proposed policies could hit hardest, especially his promise to eliminate the Department of Education and slash federal funds to public schools."

I imagine the same will be felt with health funding cuts - watch this space.

MaizieD Thu 23-Jan-25 15:29:01

Well, it was blatantly obvious that what he was proposing was going to badly affect the poor in the US.

The problem is (and it applies to the UK, too) that the economic dogma that the US and the UK both adhere to doesn't do anything for the poor . Even though Biden left an economy in apparent good shape its effects didn't 'trickle down' to the poor and were never likely to.

I wonder how these poor souls are going to react.

Bea65 Thu 23-Jan-25 16:11:18

MaizieD

Well, it was blatantly obvious that what he was proposing was going to badly affect the poor in the US.

The problem is (and it applies to the UK, too) that the economic dogma that the US and the UK both adhere to doesn't do anything for the poor . Even though Biden left an economy in apparent good shape its effects didn't 'trickle down' to the poor and were never likely to.

I wonder how these poor souls are going to react.

Yes I feel your comments are very spot onMaizieD*

imaround Thu 23-Jan-25 21:06:25

Wyllow, I don't know the answer to your question about what are the means of enforcement. The EEOC has been active since 1965, so I am going to have to dig into this to find the answer.

imaround Thu 23-Jan-25 21:13:47

A court blocked his EO that blocked the 14th Amendment as unconstitutional.

Trump said they will appeal and that the problem is the case was put in front of the wrong judge.

The judge was appointed by Regan and he said in his 40 years on the bench he has never seen anything more blate tly unconstitutional. confused

The Bishop who asked Trump to be a true Christian is now getting death threats from Trump supporters. A Georgia republican has suggested she be deported, despite being born in New Jersey.

Republicans in DC have reportedly called for a boycot of the church.

This all seems not very Christian to me.

Allira Thu 23-Jan-25 21:34:01

This all seems not very Christian to me
It's the total opposite of the Christian message.

imaround Thu 23-Jan-25 21:40:53

In Oklahoma, they want to outlaw all abortions and charge women who have them with murder, prohibits porn all together and takes away no fault divorce.

This same push is happening in other red states.

oksenate.gov/press-releases/deevers-introduces-slate-legislation-restore-moral-sanity-oklahoma?back=/senator-press-releases/dusty-deevers

imaround Thu 23-Jan-25 21:48:19

He has cancelled all NIH review panels for cancer research.

He had ordered all heath departments to cease all external communication and reporting, including rhe CDC, FDA, and NIH.

He has ordered all federally funded legal service providers to stop services at immigration courts.

Wyllow3 Thu 23-Jan-25 21:51:37

Thank you again for valuable bits of information, imaround

Re - the 14th amendment - had to check to be sure

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States""

Glad Trumps attempt to EOrder part of the constitution has meant with resistance!

Big hole in his plans for deportation and the future.

Wyllow3 Thu 23-Jan-25 21:54:04

imaround

He has cancelled all NIH review panels for cancer research.

He had ordered all heath departments to cease all external communication and reporting, including rhe CDC, FDA, and NIH.

He has ordered all federally funded legal service providers to stop services at immigration courts.

I don't understand those health organisations and the consequences of what he's done?

imaround Thu 23-Jan-25 22:01:33

CDC - Center for Disease Control (keeps us healthy, reports illnesses and pandemics) www.cdc.gov/

FDA - Food and Drug Administration (regulates prescription drugs, food, etc)
www.fda.gov/

NIH - National Institute of Health (oversees research for illnesses and vaccines)
www.nih.gov/

We could have a pandemic start yonorrow now and no one would know because these organizations can't communicate externally.

imaround Thu 23-Jan-25 22:06:03

Do I sound tired? Because I am. It is actually exhausting watching someone dismantle the country you love and k owing these is nothing you can do about it.

That is the reason I post here. Because this is headed your way. You in the UK have tome to stop this now. That and I hope one of you writes a book to tell about the downfall of the US after he gets us nuked, because I am prepared for anything at this point. hmm

Syracute Thu 23-Jan-25 22:17:54

imaround

Do I sound tired? Because I am. It is actually exhausting watching someone dismantle the country you love and k owing these is nothing you can do about it.

That is the reason I post here. Because this is headed your way. You in the UK have tome to stop this now. That and I hope one of you writes a book to tell about the downfall of the US after he gets us nuked, because I am prepared for anything at this point. hmm

Thank you very much Imaround your thoughtful, informative posts are so welcome . I am an American living in the UK and am appalled at anyone here thinking this convicted felon who just pardoned the Jan 6 insurrectionists is worthy of any admiration . I guess Hitler had his fans in the UK as well . Luckily, I have my British Citizenship and can vote in the next election . We can’t Trumps poison to spread !

Galaxy Thu 23-Jan-25 22:43:39

You lost. Why would we follow your advice. It has been a disaster.

imaround Thu 23-Jan-25 22:56:39

What are you talking about Galaxy? What advice?

Galaxy Thu 23-Jan-25 22:59:32

You seem to be telling the UK that we have to stop this now, well I hope we do it by looking at your example of failure in terms of campaigning and doing the opposite.

imaround Thu 23-Jan-25 23:07:23

Oh yes, lessons are to be learned definitely from this election cycle, and really the last 10 years.