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Galaxy

You lost. Why would we follow your advice. It has been a disaster.

Why are you jumping on imaround for something she hasn’t done?

All she’s doing is telling us what is happening now in the US, and some of its effects. Hoping that we in the UK can watch and learn.

Not that I think it’s likely that we will learn, the way our current government is going defeat in 2029 looks pretty certain.

Galaxy

You seem to be telling the UK that we have to stop this now, well I hope we do it by looking at your example of failure in terms of campaigning and doing the opposite.

I still do not understand what you are saying or mean .

I am not jumping on anyone - I am expressing a view - the Democrats lost to Trump - how bad can they have been. They appear to have learnt nothing from that loss. Calling everyone Nazis, a focus on issues that were irrelevant to many, a failure to understand the new media, to name but a few, those are the things we need to learn. I suspect it is too late thought.

Totally agree with your comments Galaxy

Galaxy

You lost. Why would we follow your advice. It has been a disaster.

I all this 'jumping on someone', particularly when her post said absolutely nothing to warrant it. Her only 'advice' was that we should try to nip trumplike tendencies in the UK in the bud.

Nothing at all to do with her 'losing' anything. No Democrats were mentioned in her post.

You are remarkably fond of accusing people of doing things that they haven't done.

Galaxy

You lost. Why would we follow your advice. It has been a disaster.

A margin of 4% between parties is not a disaster. It’s disappointing, given Trump, but not a disaster for the Democrats. If you look at the history of US politics, the pendulum swings constantly between the two parties, a presidential term ending often results in a swing to the other side. I expect the next senate elections will help redress the balance.

It is a disaster if you lose to someone like Trump, it is not like losing to Bush etc. They chose a sexual offender over the democrats - now some wont care about that, but some will and voted anyway.

A disaster for the American people yes, but I don’t think over egging the pudding as far as the Democrats losing is necessary, history repeats itself.

Trump reportedly had a call with the Greenland PM last week and it didn't go well. Trump was reportedly aggressive and threatened tariffs against the country.

Galaxy is correct in this instance. The democrats messed up. They are playing by the old "gentlemanly rules" of governing and the Republicans are not. And will continue to do so by the looks of what is happening this week. Lessons do need to be learned.

I still am not sure how me passing real time information of the effects of Trump's election is giving advice though. That part confused me.

I agree the Democrats messed up, the point I’m making is that they lost by 4%, not a huge insurmountable mountain. With a different leader they may have won, or they may not. They don’t appear from here to be going into a decline in the way that the Tories are doing, they will no doubt regroup.

I think it is the general tone on all these threads rather than you iamround so am sorry if I targeted you. I am just agog at watching people say nazi, stupid, etc and thinking that this will be an effective strategy. The absolute shutting down of concerns around immigration when this is frequently a key factor in elections. I would say much more so in this country than in America from what I can see.

Today's Trump illegal act is impoundment. Been a law since 1974. www.gao.gov/products/095406

He has ordered Sec of State Rubio to halt all funding on existing foreign aid. This does appear to apply to funding for aid to Ukraine, Taiwan and Jordan. It does not appear to include funding for aid to Isreal and Egypt.

He is basically telling Congress he doesn't care what decisions they made, he is going to do whatever he wants in violation of the Constitution.

Interestingly enough, I agree that immigration needs to be dealt with. I hope the UK does something NOW, before someone gets elected that has nefarious intentions. Because the US is showing the world what happens if that comes to be.

My whole point in posting what I do is to show people around the world what the consequences are to waiting until public sentiment gets to bad. The UK appears to be right there.

These immigrants are still human beings. Children should not be rounded up at school, doctors offices and churches and separated from their families. US Citizens and Native Americans should not be detained in violation of their constitutional rights and the President of the United States should not be doing illegal and unconstitutional things.

What rights are you (a generalized you, not you personally), as a citizen of the UK, willing to give up in order to fix the migrant process? What human rights violations are you willing to look away from?

There has to be something in between right? Push your elected officials to figure that out now. Hold Labor's toes to the coals, no matter how you vote.

The raiding of an elementary school by the I.C.E. today is beyond the pale. Fascism now lives in the U.S.A. !! Teachers and admin have to be versed in to protect children from guns and now the US government .