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Trump Inauguration and Martin Luther King Memorial Day

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Bea65 Mon 20-Jan-25 15:07:29

Today it’s Memorial Day for MLK in the US overshadowed by the TRUMP Inauguration … wonder what he would think of US politics …

grammargran Wed 22-Jan-25 13:02:33

And now this totally graceless President is demanding an apology from the Bishop, calls her ungracious and her service boring and uninspiring. Words fail me. God help America indeed …….

Allira Wed 22-Jan-25 13:03:01

nanna8

We use our navy to stop boats coming into Australia containing people who try to circumvent the official channels. I assume the UK no longer has a navy.

Pushing back migrant boats violates international maritime law.

Perhaps the Australian Navy ignores the international rules.

bee16B Wed 22-Jan-25 13:05:15

www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BMZAkFbt9M

Here is the Bishop. A genuine person it seems.

Why are some people here so full of hate?

Dickens Wed 22-Jan-25 13:16:45

Bea65

Dickens

yellowfox

We need Mr Trump over here to stop the boats and control immigration.
I'm afraid the globe trotting duo won't do it.

Humans have migrated from one place to another, for various reasons, since the dawn of time, and will continue until the end of it.

How you organise and control that migration in a civilised world is complex - although some appear to believe it's simple and you just, for example, push boats back out to sea.

No, we don't need "Mr Trump" or anyone other foreign Mr or Mrs to organise our constitutional affairs.

Parliamentary sovereignty is a principle of the UK constitution. It makes Parliament the supreme legal authority in the UK which can create or end any law. And I don't think there are any plans to hand that over to a foreign power - wasn't that one of the reasons we left the EU? To 'take back control'?

... although I'm sure Mr Trump would be flattered by your proposal.

hmm

Dickens but we haven’t taken back control re the boat crossings ..it’s just endless …am not very impressed with our GOVERNMENT they have had time - nothing changes and leaving the EU hasn’t done us any good IMO

Dickens but we haven’t taken back control re the boat crossings...

No, we haven't, because Brexit scuppered the returns deal that we had with the EU and the then government put nothing in its place.

... and that presented a new opening for the traffickers to exploit, "hey migrants, jump in this boat - they absolutely can't send you back now"!

Bea65 Wed 22-Jan-25 14:22:54

grammargran

And now this totally graceless President is demanding an apology from the Bishop, calls her ungracious and her service boring and uninspiring. Words fail me. God help America indeed …….

😰😰

Millie22 Wed 22-Jan-25 15:02:07

I wish we had someone like Donald Trump here. He is so passionate about his country.

RosiesMaw2 Wed 22-Jan-25 15:07:51

grammargran

And now this totally graceless President is demanding an apology from the Bishop, calls her ungracious and her service boring and uninspiring. Words fail me. God help America indeed …….

“My country, tears of thee
Sweet land of liberty”

Dickens Wed 22-Jan-25 15:11:24

grammargran

And now this totally graceless President is demanding an apology from the Bishop, calls her ungracious and her service boring and uninspiring. Words fail me. God help America indeed …….

Are you surprised?

I'm not. He's on a mission to eradicate anything and anyone that opposes him.

If he really believes that God saved him so that he could be POTUS, then there's no limit to what he will do under that delusion. He's on a roll, and has the support of millions who think and feel like him.

We can do nothing except watch this dystopia play out, with all the 'hurrahs' from this side of the pond ringing around us.

The world is changing, fast, the Right is on the march and when the dust settles on this new dawn, the real reckoning will become apparent and- I say this without any malice - many of those who wanted this change will find themselves the victims of it.

grammargran Wed 22-Jan-25 15:19:55

Goodness, those are powerful words RosiesMaw2

Wyllow3 Wed 22-Jan-25 15:46:23

Waiting to see what will happen for Farage, who didn't make it onto the guest list for the top inauguration events when Boris Johnson did. Can he overcome Musk's saying he is not fit to be the leader? Will this mean at last a break where Musk's diktats aren't given the same applause?

Dickens Wed 22-Jan-25 19:54:47

Wyllow3

Waiting to see what will happen for Farage, who didn't make it onto the guest list for the top inauguration events when Boris Johnson did. Can he overcome Musk's saying he is not fit to be the leader? Will this mean at last a break where Musk's diktats aren't given the same applause?

I wonder if Farage might command more respect if he stopped attempting to ingratiate himself with the Trump Road Show and actually focused on his constituents?

Maybe there was some judicial planning to keep Farage away from the big inauguration events so that he wasn't forced into contact with Mr Musk?

I'm almost embarrassed for him.

As for Johnson, he once declared, as Mayor, that Trump wasn't fit to be POTUS, rather unnecessarily rudely I thought at the time. But there he was, swanning around. But, he wasn't going to miss that opportunity.

... all that testosterone fuelled male ego floating around the arena. Big-boy Politics - as Lee Anderson calls it. With the ladies elegantly perfumed flitting around, hopefully, to distil the smell of Alpha-Male in full swing.

bee16B Wed 22-Jan-25 20:05:46

And other ladies crowing with glee at these fools.

Allira Wed 22-Jan-25 20:12:26

grammargran

Goodness, those are powerful words RosiesMaw2

They certainly are.

And Dickens, I fear you are right.

Pippa22 Wed 22-Jan-25 22:59:08

Melanie is really beautiful I think and what a figure.
I noticed the sky high heels too and at one point she slipped her hand into Trumps- through love I wonder or a fear of falling over ?
I listened to Trumps press conference after he was sworn in and I did admire him for being so straightforward with the press. He was polite with them and answered their questions in detail something our politicians never , ever do . Ours just say what they want us to hear often quite unrelated.
I also like that as well as himself he does seem to love America and seems upbeat and positive about building up the country and seeing it hopefully prosper. Quite a contrast to gloomy, boring Keir Starmer who is just so negative.

imaround Wed 22-Jan-25 23:06:54

Meanwhile, over in the US, federal workers have been ordered to report each other for any DEI that may be happening.

www.nytimes.com/2025/01/22/us/politics/trump-order-discrimination-federal-hiring.html

Farm workers on California aren't showing up to work. No one is picking our food right now. We are about to have a major food shortage. Egg prices are up 7% this week.

The federal hiring freeze is affecting a ton of people who had just been hired. I have seen several reports of people who sold homes and moved across the country, only to be told they no longer have a job. People are about to be homeless.

The officer that was assaulted at the capital on Jan 6th is frantically trying to get restraining orders against the people who assaulted him, who Trump just released from prison.

Anyone who wants Trump and Musk, by all means go ahead. We would love for you to have them.

imaround Wed 22-Jan-25 23:13:35

Iver on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, there were hundreds of reports of accounts suddenly following Trump, Vance and Zuckerburg.

There is proof that democrat leaning search results are being blocked and certain hastags (#Democrat being one of them) were completely blocked in searches.

Just saw an article that META is wanting to pay influencers $5,000 each to put their content on Instagram and Facebook.

Trump mentioned the government having 50% ownership of TikTok when it gets a buyer. Which means we will have state run media and billionaires who have already proven they will censor results.

imaround Wed 22-Jan-25 23:27:59

He has stopped $300 billion of green Infrastructure funding, including stopping already promised funds.

This will put businesses put of business and thousands of people could be laid off.

imaround Wed 22-Jan-25 23:46:45

He has revoked the Equal Opportunity Employment Act. I added a screen shot of what that means.

I recommend you actually read the order to get an idea of what this actually means for women, minorities, disabled and LGBTQ in the US.

www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/ending-illegal-discrimination-and-restoring-merit-based-opportunity/

Galaxy Thu 23-Jan-25 00:04:56

Do you mean those groups are unable to gain employment on merit? I presume that isnt what you mean.

Wyllow3 Thu 23-Jan-25 00:33:34

The intention may be too take out all affirmative action appointments,

but it's a possible excuse to practice prejudice if it occurs - without legal recourse.

There is merit as in paper qualifications - objective - but also judgments made on subjective decisions - ie "suitability" for a work role in a particular setting.

Galaxy Thu 23-Jan-25 00:42:45

I think further up it clearly states that discrimination on the grounds of sex, race, etc is covered by their existing legislation. I am as probably everyone knows against identity politics for a range of reasons. I think there is also something quite stereotypical about saying lesbians and gay people should be afraid, pretty much every lesbian on my timeline is in support of some of the measures particularly in relation to womens spaces, I also have lots of gay men saying very clearly they are not afraid and to please not use them as some sort of gotcha. Now obviously my timeline is skewed towards the gender critical but the idea that one particular group all thinks or should feel the same is not helpful.

Wyllow3 Thu 23-Jan-25 00:51:54

Good to hear that protections against discrimination are still in place, Galaxy.

imaround Thu 23-Jan-25 00:52:18

No. Here is (one of) the rule he overturned

www.dol.gov/agencies/ofccp/executive-order-11246/as-amended

It sounds like a great thing, hiring on merit only, but what it really does is allow the government (and companies) to do whatever they want to because no one is checking any more.

It will affect women, minorities, the LGBTQ community and possibly Muslims to be honest.

imaround Thu 23-Jan-25 00:59:22

Are you in the US Galaxy? I didn't realize that. I have a child in the LGBTQ community and I am not hearing anyone happy about what is happening the US. Especially since 6 states right now are trying to overturn gay marriage.

Galaxy Thu 23-Jan-25 01:00:12

We dont allow affirmative action in this country, and to be honest what I have seen in terms of 'positive action' hasnt worked. I fit into two of the categories you mentioned by the way.