Ok, so all of you who think we need a Trump here.... what is it that appeals?

Babs03

I think you will find the main reason for people in the UK supporting Trump is because he is brutal when it comes to immigration . That’s it. They seem ready to ignore his associations with the alt right, his many convictions, and his preposterous claims to want to purchase Greenland and take over Canada. Am pretty sure that anything and everything will be ignored in favour of his stance on immigration.
And this is a man whose mother arrived in the US on a boat from Scotland and who shares the US with very many immigrants of all nationalities. Only native Americans are indigenous and funnily enough they populated Mexico as well, so Mexicans are actually more American than Trump et al.

Spot on Babs03, and Farage appeals to those in this country who want to see Trumps approach here.
I have been taken aback by the vitriol of some posters on Gransnet recently both in relation to this and the sentencing of the Southport killer.

imaround

Here is the honest truth about living in the US right now, from my singular perspective.

I am lucky, we are white and live in a blue state. But I have a daughter and a LGBTQ son. (I havent even broached this topic because it is so volatile on GN. But we are scared for his safety in the future) We are keeping a low profile right now.

I am about to pull money out of savings to majorly stock up on food. We already have shortages of eggs, chicken and beef are getting harder to find and more expensive. Now that crops are rotting in fields, we are on a countdown to our grocery stores being bare. Luckily I garden and start my seeds inside each year. I will have some vegetables this summer.

I have begged my daughter to get an IUD that will last through Trumps term.

I am thankful, for the first time in my life, that we have a second amendment.

I never in a million lifetimes would have thought this is where we would be.

Thank you for being so brave, open and honest. As Mum to two lesbian daughters I completely appreciate your fears and anxieties.

Stay safe and please keep us posted 💕

Imaround

I have read your post with interest and with regards to your children know exactly where you are coming from. My transgender daughter and her husband live in the US and although they live in a blue state I can‘t help but worry

LisaAN

Imaround

I have read your post with interest and with regards to your children know exactly where you are coming from. My transgender daughter and her husband live in the US and although they live in a blue state I can‘t help but worry

Thank you both for illustrating the real fears of real individuals, groups and families. My heart goes to you all. And all the other groups threatened at the moment, from native Indians to the families of migrants- because of course, if the father or both parents are forced to emigrate, what will happen to the children.

"People need to realise they can't just go and live where they choose"
.....so true Claremont!
If those naughty European "settlers" hadn't thought "Oh ho! Here's a rich and fertile land, we'll have a bit of that & bugger the rights, traditions and culture of whomever's here already" there would be no issue.

mum2three

I think part of the admiration we feel for Trump is that he seems so definite about things. Our own politicians are so afraid to express their true feelings, we just don't know where they stand on important matters.
Also our government(s) just don't seem to care about this country or the wishes of the British people. Once they are in power, they follow their own personal agenda.
Our history, our culture, our traditions don't seem to matter to most of them.
Those of us who do care are sick of being ridiculed and condemned for complaining about the decline in everything. People who live in traditional English towns and villages are having foreign cultures forced on them, changing the whole atmosphere of our country.
We are sick of being ignored.

Can I just ask for an example of what foreign culture you have had foisted upon you? ( a genuine question, by the way; I do remember, many years ago feeling a bit upset that my children’s school featured Diwali for their Christmas production instead of the usual nativity although, in retrospect I guess it was very forward thinking).

I'm a big fan of Italian food - is that foreign culture ok- or not?

Nannee49

*"People need to realise they can't just go and live where they choose"*
.....so true Claremont!
If those naughty European "settlers" hadn't thought "Oh ho! Here's a rich and fertile land, we'll have a bit of that & bugger the rights, traditions and culture of whomever's here already" there would be no issue.

Talk about imposing a foreign culture. Even more sickening now that Trump intends to make the lives of Native Indians even worse than before- and talks about them 'not being American citizens'

The OP btw, does not ask anyone to 'justify themselves' but to just state their reasons. And no-one has to reply either.

Claremont

Nannee49

"People need to realise they can't just go and live where they choose"
.....so true Claremont!
If those naughty European "settlers" hadn't thought "Oh ho! Here's a rich and fertile land, we'll have a bit of that & bugger the rights, traditions and culture of whomever's here already" there would be no issue.

Talk about imposing a foreign culture. Even more sickening now that Trump intends to make the lives of Native Indians even worse than before- and talks about them 'not being American citizens'

I suppose he wants to drill for oil on their sacred land .

MayBee70

mum2three

I think part of the admiration we feel for Trump is that he seems so definite about things. Our own politicians are so afraid to express their true feelings, we just don't know where they stand on important matters.
Also our government(s) just don't seem to care about this country or the wishes of the British people. Once they are in power, they follow their own personal agenda.
Our history, our culture, our traditions don't seem to matter to most of them.
Those of us who do care are sick of being ridiculed and condemned for complaining about the decline in everything. People who live in traditional English towns and villages are having foreign cultures forced on them, changing the whole atmosphere of our country.
We are sick of being ignored.

Can I just ask for an example of what foreign culture you have had foisted upon you? ( a genuine question, by the way; I do remember, many years ago feeling a bit upset that my children’s school featured Diwali for their Christmas production instead of the usual nativity although, in retrospect I guess it was very forward thinking).

instead of - No
As well as - Yes.

Although they are at different times of the year.
I remember being in Singapore and there were displays about Diwali in several places and that wouldn't have been in December.

The date of Diwali varies, it is based on a lunar calendar I think. I'm not sure how much it varies.

theworriedwell

The date of Diwali varies, it is based on a lunar calendar I think. I'm not sure how much it varies.

Not around Christmas time though.

October - November?