Still told to 'get over it, it's done.

Allira, of course we move forwards- always. But when you make a mistake, especially a massive one, ro go forwards you have to find ways of correcting that mistake, instead of wallowing in it.

and I will not learn to accept it.

And right there is why others get exasperated.

At least you dont get stressed about it[assuming you dont really].

But personally, I find people in real life who choose not to accept things that have happened,wearing.
On the whole. I avoid them where I can! .

I hate hearing the same conversations over and over again.

”I hate hearing the same conversations over and over again”

Fine! You don’t need to listen to them, or join in🤷‍♀️

Claremont

Barleyfields

Of course it was! Just not a deal you’re happy with. Why on earth are you getting so stressed about this? There’s absolutely nothing you can do about it, so learn to accept it.

I don't get stressed about it- and I will not learn to accept it. That is the whole point of this thread. All those years ago, we were told to 'get over it' as we were a large minority. But now that it is clear that a tiny minority still suport Brexit, and the vast majority do not- then it's time to not get over it at all- but do anything we can to redress the situation.

Barleyfields could you explain what this supposed negotiated 'deal' consists of?

If you don’t know what the deal is, it’s not for me to educate you. You are stressed about it despite your denial (why else would you start this thread?). I’m not. Despite having voted Remain, I accept what has happened and I most definitely won’t get worked up about something I can’t change. That way lie contentment and serenity. I recommend them to you in lieu of all this angst. I have said before, life is short. Enjoy it while you can because tomorrow it may end.

When a thread is started saying "Still told to get over it it' done", anyone reading the site at all, sees it!
It didnt take a genius to know what it was going to be about.

And you will see that my last sentences were talking specifically about people in real life.
So yes, I do avoid hearing the same conversations if I can.
Very much so.

In this instance, at first I did wonder whether it was doing the op damage[it does some people].
But she says not.

I hate hearing the same conversations over and over again.

Sorry fancythat it’s a characteristic of many GN threads. The only way to miss it is not to read them.

I will say that we can think we are not stressed, when we sometimes are.

Recently the phone rang.
I was outdoors, bringing in some washing.
I tried to be sensible and not rush to answer the phone, and be calm.
I thought I was succeeding..until i fell over the outside step into the porch, I have never done that before,
I thought I was being serene about the phone ringing. But I was not.

Our relationship with mainland Europe is something that has been argued about for two thousand years and more.
And will go on being a bone of contention.
I arrived at the conclusion that Brexit was inevitable as so many people I spoke to were dissatisfied with so many laws and directives were coming from Brussels, overruling our government.
So, rather than Boris stirring it up, my impression was that he rode a wave of opinion.
I was surprised what the mood was.
And that was before the bus!
Generally think a trading block is a good idea but not the increased political union that was being encouraged and enforced.
So hope Starmer does well with closer links.

Our relationship with mainland Europe is something that has been argued about for two thousand years and more.
That's an under-statement! 😁

In comparison, Brexit is just a blip.

So hope Starmer does well with closer links.
I agree.

loopyloo

Our relationship with mainland Europe is something that has been argued about for two thousand years and more.
And will go on being a bone of contention.
I arrived at the conclusion that Brexit was inevitable as so many people I spoke to were dissatisfied with so many laws and directives were coming from Brussels, overruling our government.
So, rather than Boris stirring it up, my impression was that he rode a wave of opinion.
I was surprised what the mood was.
And that was before the bus!
Generally think a trading block is a good idea but not the increased political union that was being encouraged and enforced.
So hope Starmer does well with closer links.

I do agree Boris was riding the wave of opinion rather than stirring up anti EU feelings. I also agree that a trading bloc was fine, but it didnt stay at just that. I have said before on these EU threads that I just cannot understand why some people have such a love affair with the EU and feel sad they think the UK is is so worthless unless we belong to this club.

LizzieDrip

^”I hate hearing the same conversations over and over again”^

Fine! You don’t need to listen to them, or join in🤷‍♀️

Indeed. And as circumstances change, the same subject changes with it, so the conversation becomes valid again, as something just have to be done to redress the situation.

Closing eyes, ears and minds is never a way to go forwards at all. Be it in your personal life, or at country level.

Brexit is a VERY VERY expensive blip!

As said, thread after thread complaining about prices rises, shortages of medicines, shortages of GPs and medical staff- linked with total denial of one of the, or probybly THE main reason- makes no sense.

" I hate hearing the same conversations over and over again "
Especially when they are less of a conversation and more of a monologue, or even a diatribe.

Kandinsky

Claremont

Write to your MP about this.
I know this is a talk board and people can talk about whatever they want ( within reason ) but nothing will change talking about this on here.
We’re not going to rejoin the EU even if everyone on GN agreed with you.

Maybe your MP can offer more help?

What makes you think that some of us don’t write to MP’s etc?

I have many times- he is an über Tory and is totally useless. The solution does not lie with my local MP, nor can here offer any help- what a silly suggestion.

RosieandherMaw

" I hate hearing the same conversations over and over again "
Especially when they are less of a conversation and more of a monologue, or even a diatribe.

Things move forwards. Do you believe Brexit has been a great advantage for the country, for your family, for you personally?

Since I first expressed my real concerns about Brexit- so many have joined our side. The figures show in the YouGov statisitics, even accepting a degree of inaccuracy - are quite staggering. ELEVEN percent- I am quite sure many here are actually surprised.

When something happens to you personally. or to your family and friends, which is very unjust and has massively negative consequences, do you 'get over it', or do you get stuck in, and try to do something about it, at all levels.

Remember, for instance, that Hannan promised at the time that we would NOT leave the Customs Union nor the Single Market. (I can find the video if you wish).

When something happens to you personally. or to your family and friends, which is very unjust and has massively negative consequences, do you 'get over it', or do you get stuck in, and try to do something about it, at all levels.

When something happens that cannot be ever be reversed, then YES!
Brexit happened. It wasnt a dream. And the world is not in time travel.

As to what happens in future, that is a different matter.

When something happens to you personally. or to your family and friends, which is very unjust and has massively negative consequences, do you 'get over it', or do you get stuck in, and try to do something about it, at all levels.

I'd be interested to know how you are getting stuck in, and trying to do something about it, at all levels as you say you have written to your MP to no avail and say that The solution does not lie with my local MP, nor can here offer any help- what a silly suggestion.

Why silly?

What do you suggest as next steps for the general public?

The figures show in the YouGov statisitics, even accepting a degree of inaccuracy - are quite staggering. ELEVEN percent- I am quite sure many here are actually surprised.

The figures are in my link above and 11% is just one of the figures.

Claremont

Allira, of course we move forwards- always. But when you make a mistake, especially a massive one, ro go forwards you have to find ways of correcting that mistake, instead of wallowing in it.

wallowing in it?

I am not wallowing at all, perhaps you feel you, are unless, as you seem to hint, you are being pro-active in reversing the decision?

There is no point stressing about what you can’t change, you just make the best if it and hope the relationship will improve and there is every chance it will. Realistically it will have to be the UK accepting EU regulations before significant changes are going to be seen.
Some form of freedom of movement is going to need to be accepted, until then small steps.

Allira

^The figures show in the YouGov statisitics, even accepting a degree of inaccuracy - are quite staggering. ELEVEN percent- I am quite sure many here are actually surprised.^

The figures are in my link above and 11% is just one of the figures.

yes, and 89% is the other! Both staggering, even is we allow for some degree of error.

We can all be pro-active in effecting change. As said, Hannan and others did categorically say we would NOT leave the Customs Union. nor the Single Market (he said, no-one, but no-one is even thinking of leaving either)- don't you remember?

So many lies, so mcuh deceipt, and so little preparation and planning. We need to do better for the UK, and allowing Trump to walk all over us is certainly NOT going to ensure UK Sovereignty.

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I don’t think I feature in that quote, do I?

Realistically it will have to be the UK accepting EU regulations before significant changes are going to be seen

Ye gods! 😮
Beam me up Scottie. Please.