Farage. Well he’s Top of the Pops right now! 😂

nanna8

I regard Starmer as a traitor. He is not good for the country and you have 4 years of him. I have never come across such a bad PM and that includes the dreaded Thatcher and Tony Blair.

What on earth are you talking about?

Absolute nonsense!

I listened to William Hague this morning.

He actually said that he was against the no platforming happening in some universities.

I believe his words were -

Free speech, should be that free, unless it is inciting something which is illegal

Oh thankyou GG, that's a different interpretation. It is important to acknowledge the problem.

No difference at all- he said Free Speech has to remain within the Law (which means no incitment do violence and threats, etc).

And did he acknowledge the very main issues relating to free speech that have happened.

Silverbrooks

Farage at CPAC: In my country can't say anything or you might get put in prison.

Good old Phil Moorhouse (A Different Bias) has responded:

^Yet he's been saying exactly what he wants for well over a decade on a national platform and hasn't been arrested. Almost as if he's not quite telling the truth. ^

Farage is despicable!

He knows only too well he is fanning the flames across the pond, perpetuating lies and propaganda, backing up the misinformation about this country spread by Trump and Musk.

He’s a complete disgrace and is betraying his fellow countrymen!

Why is he even there?

I have a soft spot for the UK, having been born there. Hard to understand I suppose unless you are a migrant. My friend has a soft spot for Poland because that as his country of birth. Similar. However,I don’t really know why I should explain myself. I am interested in world politics ,is that a crime ? I also have the advantage of having studied politics at uni at one stage of my life. Admittedly a long time back and of course things change. I think I can still just about recognise a bad leader when I come across one. Agree to disagree, huh ?

You're entitled to your opinion nanna8.

nanna8 your views and perspectives are always welcome.

nanna8

I have a soft spot for the UK, having been born there. Hard to understand I suppose unless you are a migrant. My friend has a soft spot for Poland because that as his country of birth. Similar. However,I don’t really know why I should explain myself. I am interested in world politics ,is that a crime ? I also have the advantage of having studied politics at uni at one stage of my life. Admittedly a long time back and of course things change. I think I can still just about recognise a bad leader when I come across one. Agree to disagree, huh ?

Anyone can post, anyone can have a view.

Carry on please

nanna8

I have a soft spot for the UK, having been born there. Hard to understand I suppose unless you are a migrant. My friend has a soft spot for Poland because that as his country of birth. Similar. However,I don’t really know why I should explain myself. I am interested in world politics ,is that a crime ? I also have the advantage of having studied politics at uni at one stage of my life. Admittedly a long time back and of course things change. I think I can still just about recognise a bad leader when I come across one. Agree to disagree, huh ?

Of course you’re entitled to your opinion nanna8, but I don’t understand why you won’t say if there are any British PMs you have actually rated, you seem to be critical of all of them, even those internationally respected as effective, like Thatcher and Blair? It feels as though you’re saying all our leaders in the last 50 years have been poor, which maybe you are.

I thought Blair was good until the Middle East war. I respect that Thatcher was a good leader but hated her policies. Churchill was good during the war (but not afterwards)Lloyd George was first rate it before my time. Ted Heath - nah, shocker. I didn’t mind Brown but I think I am in a minority there. I actually thought Fishi Sunak was a decent man but not too good a leader. Boris was a character but should have stuck to being Lord Mayor.

Fishi = Rishi - not a deliberate mistake !

I think you have to judge leaders in the round Nanna8, I can’t think of any world leaders ever who were without fault or didn’t make errors of judgment. I very much doubt that history will judge Starmer as our worst ever Prime Minister though, I suspect hindsight, as so often, will be a wonderful thing.

You may be right, I accept that and it is still early days for him. I sincerely hope so. 😀

nanna8

You may be right, I accept that and it is still early days for him. I sincerely hope so. 😀

However, I don’t really know why I should explain myself. I am interested in world politics ,is that a crime ?

Absolutely not, nanna8, especially if this was the country of your birth! It's ironic that world politics (including Australian politics) are discussed on here but some posters think that someone living in another country, even though that country has close links with the UK, is not allowed to comment.

You're not the only poster who lives overseas, I'm sure.

nanna8

You may be right, I accept that and it is still early days for him. I sincerely hope so. 😀

So do I!

I do think that Reeves could be his Achilles Heel if he's not careful.

And Milliband!

FriedGreenTomatoes2

And Milliband!

Looking at a lot of them in all parties fills me with despair!

If it’s any comfort our lot over here are pretty shonky,too. Always arguing, not doing their jobs. Building stuff no one needs or wants and making us all pay.

Boris was a character but should have stuck to being Lord Mayor.

Johnson was never ‘Lord Mayor’. The Lord Mayor is mayor of the City of London, which is a completely separate entity from Greater London. An independent city state, not necessarily even subject to UK law.

Johnson was mayor of London, that’s all the bit that isn’t the City of London.

I do think that if you are going to make sweeping comments on UK politics you should take the trouble to be aware of how the whole system works and the institutions within it.

Ha ha. Have you seen the sweeping statements made on American politics on here.

Galaxy

Ha ha. Have you seen the sweeping statements made on American politics on here.

Ah, but most of us don’t claim a previous US identity. And, I hope, do try to understand how US political institutions work.

But there are numerous claims about America on the Trump thread that are hilarious and are taking as gospel.
This is the internet, people can access it from anywhere whatever their 'identity'
A while ago there was quite frequent criticism of the 'anti Brexit' poster as she didnt live in the UK, that made me uncomfortable as does the criticism of Nanna for similar. This isnt aimed at you Maizie it is a general comment.