Trump: All American or Closet Communist?

ronib

Monica Trump was very clear that his ambition for America is to be self sufficient in manufacturing and production of goods. So Uk manufacturing needs to wake up to the new boy on the block.

ronib glad you agree with me UK manufacturing will need to respond to any tarriffs Trump imposes.

That is if we have any manufacturers left that are not foreign owned. If they cannot sell their products because of Trumps tarriffs they will just close factories down and move them somewhere they can.

We have Mrs Thatche to blame for selling our manufacturing industries down the river.

Namsnanny In an interview with CNN in March 2024Musk has talked openly about his use of ketamine to treat his depression. edition.cnn.com/2024/03/18/tech/elon-musk-ketamine-use-don-lemon-interview/index.html

More detailis included in this fact checking article www.yahoo.com/news/know-musks-ketamine-120000781.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAABNrUTz4E9dP-jxhq-R3oMLYd3lUpdBw_f9uUFE1ri9NO1nPtnRi5CIMUpiYlOanPqemVy26fhFhVR35Yk2D16AF9LEdQ9fmQZLj-LXOHCHXsjFOClneO6LJ97x-Dba9cJbBEhE6L500fh5Z3Llox-Icot3m_CkNrULF74poMAw]]y

If you are interested in learning more about Musk, Seth Abramsom has written a biography on him. Seth has very few nice things to say about Musk.

Another biographer, called him a sociopath.

It is well known that Musk uses ketamine. He has said so himself.

ronib

In your dreams Dickens …. Just no way. The West needs to wake up.

What is in Dickens dreams?
The west is awake to Trump and Musk.
It sounds as though you admire Trump and don’t see the way he and Musk are attempting to undermine Europe.

There’s no way the Uk will follow if Trump/Musk wishes to lead. Have you seen our government recently? We’re completely opposed to much of Trump’s direction of travel.

ronib

In your dreams Dickens …. Just no way. The West needs to wake up.

In your dreams Dickens

... eh?

ronib

There’s no way the Uk will follow if Trump/Musk wishes to lead. Have you seen our government recently? We’re completely opposed to much of Trump’s direction of travel.

The UK may not have a choice, whether we are opposed to Trump's direction of travel or not.

Monica why do we have no choice? We are polar opposite to the USA on climate change, woke ideology, gender, so how do you think change might happen? What hold does Trump have on the Labour government to effect social change here? Why would Trump even bother as his main ambitions lie for his own country?

I've just listened to Trip Leading interview with Frans Timmermans, the Dutch politician who has held senior positions in the EU. Anyone who doubts the impact that Trump's actions is having on the world might like to listen to it. Due to geopolitics, Trump's "direction of travel" has a direct impact on us all in the West and IMO to pretend it doesn't either shows naive optimism or blind ignorance of how the world works. The reason Trump's actions are widely reported in most countries is testament to how extreme they are rather than being an extreme over-reaction to what he is doing and saying. Timmermans thinks we are in a very dangerous world situation and I am inclined to agree. This is the headlines in today's Washington Post:

"In first month, Trump upends century-old approach to the world
The president appears to be turning back the clock to a time in world history when countries with the biggest militaries constructed empires, demanded tribute from weaker nations and expanded their territories through coercion."

Copying the UK in the nineteenth century perhaps? In a lot of ways he is like an old fashioned despot and I am glad I don’t live in the US just now. What I wonder is what is going to happen to all those people who have lost their jobs. They will have no medical insurance and a lot will likely lose their houses. A frightening situation.

And the cost to the US of throwing all those people simultaneously to the wolves while removing all safety nets will be horrendous financially, socially, medically, environmentally, to the detriment of industries and communities all over every state, and to the peaceful running of the whole of the nation.

Already no-one trusts their elected representatives, let alone unelected "advisors" who make executive decisions. As more and more are thrown on the scrapheap and government agencies are dismantled, more people will be convinced that direct action is worth risking prison or getting shot. There will be so many people whose live have been ruined that there will be unrest everywhere, leading to violent uprisings and potentially to civil war between the haves and the have-nots.

Making America great again? No way.

More and more information coming up about Russia grooming Trump for many decades, and his appointment as KGB spy under the name of Krakov in 1987.

Claremont really? Do tell us more!

Look online ronib. The story is in many reputable publications. It’s also in the Telegraph, dated 13th February.

I think the world has gone completely mad Casdon

I have just had a look online and this emanates from a former KGB spy chief…

I think it could be said that what exists in Russia is not communism but state capitalism.

I cannot stand Trump - but then I don't admire Putin or many other politicians at the moment either. At the end of the day, most of them change their political stances when it is convenient for them to do so. I think his comments and actions regarding Gaza are despicable and, of course, he is willing to throw any country under a bus if it proves convenient to do so.

Despite seeing Trump as a fairly unintelligent and unprincipled bully, on the matter of Ukraine, I think he is right that something must be done (even though I don't support his reasons for taking this stance - basically keeping in the good books of the powerful rather than supporting the powerless). Or do people believe that Europe and the USA should be sending arms in perpetuity to Ukraine, with no ideas as to how to resolve this deadly situation ? There has been next to no coverage of the fighting between these two countries and I think that is deliberate. If we saw the absolute horror of it all I think we would be saying "why are we funding this? Why aren't any efforts being made to try to negotiate a settlement?" There has only recently been a mention that over one million people have died in this war. One million families who have lost a loved one. This should not continue.

M0nica

Namsnanny In an interview with CNN in March 2024Musk has talked openly about his use of ketamine to treat his depression. edition.cnn.com/2024/03/18/tech/elon-musk-ketamine-use-don-lemon-interview/index.html

More detailis included in this fact checking article www.yahoo.com/news/know-musks-ketamine-120000781.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAABNrUTz4E9dP-jxhq-R3oMLYd3lUpdBw_f9uUFE1ri9NO1nPtnRi5CIMUpiYlOanPqemVy26fhFhVR35Yk2D16AF9LEdQ9fmQZLj-LXOHCHXsjFOClneO6LJ97x-Dba9cJbBEhE6L500fh5Z3Llox-Icot3m_CkNrULF74poMAw]]y

Thank you for the links M0nica, not a lot to comment on, really.
Off the subject really, but how easy it seems to be for wealthy people (I'm thinking of Michael Jackson primarily) to hire Dr's who will prescribe anything for them?

ronib Yes I agree, I don't see KS taking on any of Trumps political ideas. Maybe the complete opposite.

IN every profession there are people who will do anything if paid enough.