Zelensky - is Trump ousting him out to make way for a Putin choice?

UK will never turn its back on Ukraine. Musk Putin and Trump are taking us into WW3

UK has signed a 100 year agreement to support Ukraine

Trump is all over Putin ,not one word of criticism,whilst Zelensky is treated like the enemy

Maremia

Nobody is joking about Trump being hoodwinked by Putin. It is too serious for jokes. If Ukraine had kept their nuclear weapons instead of disarming, on the promise of being kept safe by the USA and yes, Russia, then Putin would not have invaded.

Exactly this.
We were part of that deal.

Zelensky is being forced to do a deal with the US. I doubt he will be ousted. It's all about getting their hands on Ukraine's mineral wealth, lithium amonst others. I doubt Trump ever really intended to do a deal with Putin. This was to back Zelensky into a corner. It's Trumps MO.

25Avalon

Zelensky is being forced to do a deal with the US. I doubt he will be ousted. It's all about getting their hands on Ukraine's mineral wealth, lithium amonst others. I doubt Trump ever really intended to do a deal with Putin. This was to back Zelensky into a corner. It's Trumps MO.

That may well be the tactic but I don’t see Russia being defeated and occupied land regained without European boots on the ground

When Europe as a whole commits to that we might get progress, don’t expect it to be easy, Russia might start targeting European infrastructure, including ours.

We should not laugh at old man trump.
He means everything he says.
Our once friendly ally is no longer our friend.

He means everything he says.

...for a moment, when he says it, Gfplux

Trump out to get hold of Ukraine's mineral reserves.

His true colours.

Didn't take long.
Oh, Fried Green Tomatoes."

eazybee

Trump out to get hold of Ukraine's mineral reserves.

His true colours.

Didn't take long.
Oh, Fried Green Tomatoes."

The US has always tried to get benefit out of helping friends, they did very well out of WW1 and WW2, Trump is following on that trait.
That aside he really doesn’t not want to get involved in a war with Russia, that could get really nasty.

He wants us to spend more on defence by buying from America too.

That's my opinion anyway.

The UK outsources much of its defence systems sometimes with US others with European countries, the Typhoon is European the new Challenger 3 tanks are to be built in Germany the F35 fighters are US built, Nuclear fleet are built in UK but dependant on US for arming. Most naval assets are UK built.

Unlike the French who have almost all home built defence systems, the UK uses a mix from other allies, interoperable within NATO, I would suggest that’s unlikely to change we just need more of the same

I think Trump doesn’t like or identify with most of Europe but he does like the UK so he won’t do anything to really put them offside. He clearly doesn’t like Ukraine for reasons best known to himself. Looking back,he has always had a bit of a soft spot for Russia and Putin. Cut from the same cloth I suppose. They ‘get’ each other.

Its the anniversary of the war in Ukraine and both Trudeau and European leaders are meeting in person/Zoom in Ukraine today.

nanna8 - I'm sure Putin "gets" Trump.

nanna8

I think Trump doesn’t like or identify with most of Europe but he does like the UK so he won’t do anything to really put them offside. He clearly doesn’t like Ukraine for reasons best known to himself. Looking back,he has always had a bit of a soft spot for Russia and Putin. Cut from the same cloth I suppose. They ‘get’ each other.

It’s not that he doesn’t like Ukraine he hates the prospect of getting into a war thats going to cost $hundreds of billions even if it can be won, after that costing even more to rebuild.

I don’t blame him for that either, however I think his negotiating style is awful, deliberately rubbing others up the wrong way.

Wow, the US has voted with Russia and North Korea against a UN sanction brought by Ukraine. Unbelievable.

"Trump’s Ukraine rare earths deal: 'The art of the steal'

If Trump forces Ukraine to trade minerals for support, he’s helping Putin more than America. "

Headline in Kyiv newspaper today. I feel so angry about Trump's betrayal and I'm not Ukrainian, how must they feel?

My goodness the world order is changing.

The UN had a resolution for lasting peace in Ukraine.

The USA voted against alongside Russia, North Korea, Hungary etc.

Love the way Macron puts his hand on Trumps arm and corrects him.

More people need to do that!

Indeed Whitewavemark!

Whitewavemark2

Love the way Macron puts his hand on Trumps arm and corrects him.

More people need to do that!

Well done Macron. He corrected the liar.

Listening to Katty Kay and Anthony Scaramucci - there is a suggestion that Trumps speeches about Ukraine are straight out of Putins note book, and that Trump is being guided by the Kremlin.

Wouldn’t be at all surprised.

Nothing would surprise me WWM2 The Russians have most definitely been interfering in elections, governments, big business etc in many western countries. People like Trump have traits that might leave them open to blackmail and corruption. I still think there are big questions to ask about Epstein, the men he had friendships with and the connections that he had with Russia.