Ukraine Plan to go forward?

That is, Trump is looking like he is friendly with Putin.

Trump wants to deal and trade with Russia and reduce the continual defence cost, before the war Russia was becoming quite liberal by past standard, western goods and influence were commonplace, the sanctions stopped all that but did not reduce Russias ability to attack Ukraine.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Sadly, (realistically?) what are the London talks going to resolve? The fact is, that Trump and 74% of the Republican Party are not prepared to keep pumping billions of dollars of military aid into Ukraine, when the war is clearly at a stalemate 3 years after it started.

The US supplies around 60% of the total military assistance, so what is Europe going to do to prop up Zelensky? Start a war with Russia?

Like it or not, Zelensky has to make peace with Russia and if that means giving up Territory, then sadly, so be it. As Trump said, he has no cards to play. Peter Mandelson clearly realises this as well, hence his comments.

Well said FriedGreenTomatoes2 Europe (and the US under Biden) have been funding a war that Ukraine cannot win, even with US $s The only way this is going to happen is for all parties to sit around a table and negotiate - some compromise has to be made from both sides. Zelensky said to Trump during that horrendous meeting that "this war is far from over" which gives some the feeling he is not looking for peace. Love him or hate him, Trump (and his ego) has got the talking started, Whether it goes the way it should remains to be seen. I hated the debacle in the White House at the weekend and this should have been played out in private. However, what we don't need are British (or any other European Nationality) "boots on the ground" to give Starmer his "Maggie moment". I lost my son in 2009 when he was serving in Kosovo with the Peace Keeping Forces. Anyone who thinks that "boots on the ground" is the answer will soon change their mind when the body bags started coming home - and they will. Peace will only be achieved by talking and compromise. Stop letting the war mongers and the ones making a lot of money out of this war, win.

PoliticsNerd

I don't think they should Willow, but that is my bias, just as others are biased towards support for Trump.

I just remember that the last payment for lease-lend was made on 29 December 2006 for the sum of about $83m USD (£45.5m) to the United States. We never once tried to negotiate it down - it was a debt of honour.

Interestingly the US never paid France its Revolution debt. It seems that the US puts a high price on the democracy of others but expect to pay nothing to allies for there own. At the beginning of WWII America were neutral but their leader now seems to want to side with the aggressor.

Allies change. I hope the US remains ours but I would put that at 50/50 over time.

I think America want war far off their shores. They will spend - but like the Lend Lease of ww2, they want all their money back with interest.

How is this any different?

TopSec I hated the debacle in the White House at the weekend and this should have been played out in private. However, what we don't need are British (or any other European Nationality) "boots on the ground" to give Starmer his "Maggie moment". I lost my son in 2009 when he was serving in Kosovo with the Peace Keeping Forces. Anyone who thinks that "boots on the ground" is the answer will soon change their mind when the body bags started coming home - and they will. Peace will only be achieved by talking and compromise. Stop letting the war mongers and the ones making a lot of money out of this war, win.

Agreed.

Mum and Dad lost brothers flying in ww2, we'd no living adult males in that generation. My condolences to you and your family.