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Trump’s tariffs. Now it’s the Republic of Ireland’s turn. ☘️

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 12-Mar-25 20:25:44

Trump. He certainly isn't Joe O'Biden.

PamQS Thu 13-Mar-25 14:08:58

FriedGreenTomatoes2

That’s part of his charm. He gets things done Casdon.
He’s a disruptor.

Charm? He doesn't charm me. Why does he talk in that silly-song voice? And getting things done is easy if you can order something to happen, and it does!

Yes, Ireland were very clever - a lot of finance companies and head offices moved from London, previously known as as the finance capital of the world, to Dublin! But it seems to me Trump must be making a lot of enemies, which isn't clever. He's certainly upset Canadians and Greenlanders without any tangible benefits.

Syracute Thu 13-Mar-25 14:09:16

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I like that Trump doesn’t accuse the Republic of Ireland, he applauds them for taking the opportunity …. while accusing Biden and Obama of allowing it to happen.

We all live in this world together .
You can’t just take a battering ram to policies and call it a done deal . That is what negotiations are for . If he was so concerned about pharma in Ireland why didn’t he do something about it last time ! He did nothing . Trump created the tariff agreements that he is bashing between Canada and Mexico .
His twenty something crash team is working
without proper sleep leading to people being fired only to be rehired . This is danderous stuff .
He can play with tariffs etc but there is no infrastructure to create the products that the country needs . He will impose poverty on many for the benefit of a few .
FGT you admire a person who doesn’t give a whit about improving lives or relationships but just filling the pockets of himself, his family and billionaire buddies that paid for his reelection !

Churchview Thu 13-Mar-25 14:11:37

I genuinely think Trump is unable to envision the outcomes of his actions.

Like all narcissists, other people only exist to orbit him.
He thinks he will prevail because, hey - he's Donald.
If he doesn't get his way, he'll just get angry and keep bludgeoning away.
Until it all explodes or he dies. Narcissists never learn from their mistakes.

Still no resolution to the war in Ukraine, price of eggs, cost of living rises. What are the current stats on illegal immigration - are the numbers dropping? Are Americans better off yet? Is medical care being resolved?

What exactly is Trump actually achieving? Plastic straws and...............

Maremia Thu 13-Mar-25 14:14:24

Hitler got things done, so now does Putin, Xi, and any other dictator you care to mention. Doesn't make them charming. Weird adjective to use for such a repulsive person.

Churchview Thu 13-Mar-25 14:15:24

I agree with PamQS. Exactly where are the tangible benefits for anyone?

Wyllow3 Thu 13-Mar-25 14:15:57

From CNN, 3 hours ago:

How Trump’s trade war could quickly spiral out of control

Firstly a good description of how tariff wars are escalating crazily: how it will heat up further: then reactions from to economists and CEO's

Alarm in the C-Suite
There is growing concern in Corporate America about the fallout of the trade war.

The Business Roundtable said Wednesday that its CEO Economic Outlook Index has dimmed and CEOs have cut their plans to hire and invest.

The vast majority (85%) of CEOs oppose Trump’s approach to trade, according to a straw poll of roughly 100 major US CEOs at the Yale Chief Executive Leadership Institute CEO Caucus.

The Yale event, held in Washington on Tuesday and featuring the CEOs of JPMorgan Chase, Pfizer, American Airlines and other firms, revealed that 94% of CEOs polled are worried tariffs will be inflationary and 85% believe Trump’s tariffs are backfiring.

Jeffrey Sonnenfeld, founder of the Yale Chief Executive Leadership Institute, told CNN that business leaders universally believe there are legitimate reasons to apply tariffs selectively. But Sonnenfeld said CEOs are “angry” over the shifting justifications offered by the administration for Trump’s tariffs.

“The broad-sweeping assault on allies instead of adversarial and rival nations has CEOs dismayed and embarrassed,” Sonnenfeld said in an email.

Of course, it’s too early to know how the trade war will evolve — and what the ultimate impact will be on the economy and financial markets.

Foreign leaders may be reluctant to continue the escalatory cycle so as not to further damage their local economies.

“They understand tariffs are bad for their economies. That could be a natural break in this tit-for-tat,” said Lovely.

It’s also possible that Trump is forced to dial back the tariff pressure if the US economy starts to really weaken or if Wall Street throws an even bigger temper tantrum.

“The president is in a tight spot, and every tariff (or threatened tariff) makes his position more difficult,” Simon Johnson, head of MIT’s Global Economics and Management group, told CNN in an email. “If he keeps going in this direction, prices will rise and the economy will slow even further.”

edition.cnn.com/2025/03/13/economy/trade-wars-can-spiral-out-of-control/index.html

Maremia Thu 13-Mar-25 14:16:08

Folk are saying that 'sleepy' Joe Biden was well named, because under his regime, they could sleep at night.

Wyllow3 Thu 13-Mar-25 14:17:43

Greenland has just voted for Independence with a very strong anti-US vote, btw.

Maremia Thu 13-Mar-25 14:18:56

He is doing it for 'Americans'. Can you give us your definition of the Americans he is 'doing it for' rather than the ones he is doing in?

Churchview Thu 13-Mar-25 14:24:22

"Can you give us your definition of the Americans he is 'doing it for"

Billionaires?

madeleine45 Thu 13-Mar-25 14:34:15

I just keep thinking what Spitting Image could have done with DT. Mind you they would have had to think of something totally crazy to be as cracked as he already is, so they would have a job to find something that could nave been something Trump would really have done himself

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Thu 13-Mar-25 15:11:36

Maremia

He is doing it for 'Americans'. Can you give us your definition of the Americans he is 'doing it for' rather than the ones he is doing in?

The ones who voted for him.
Not the abstained. They have no right to a voice now. Their choice (as my dad used to say).

Claremont Thu 13-Mar-25 15:23:46

Many of the ones who voted for him have changed their mind 'biggly'- because nothing in their favour has happened. So many have lost their jobs, and prices have gone up instead of coming down, and they now realise just how dangerous he is, for all of them.

Yes, Dictators 'get things done' - but he doesn't even have the intelligence or vision of most dictators, he is a Destructor too. It rarely ends well!

Nandalot Thu 13-Mar-25 15:24:01

I know who will benefit, those who play the American markets. Declare tariffs, market goes down, buy low, then tariffs cancelled or postponed, market goes up, sell! Repeat!

Allira Thu 13-Mar-25 15:33:57

Oh, come on, folks!

He's Making America Great Again! 🇺🇲
It just takes a bit of time.

Wyllow3 Thu 13-Mar-25 15:38:30

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Maremia

He is doing it for 'Americans'. Can you give us your definition of the Americans he is 'doing it for' rather than the ones he is doing in?

The ones who voted for him.
Not the abstained. They have no right to a voice now. Their choice (as my dad used to say).

Surely the idea of a democracy is that a good leader cares for all his/her people not just the ones that voted them in? Or am I in in a different universe?

wibblywobblywobblebottom Thu 13-Mar-25 15:50:34

Bless him, he's so stupid he still doesn't understand what tariffs do.

Susieq62 Thu 13-Mar-25 15:54:13

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Thu 13-Mar-25 15:59:37

If you knew me SusiQ you would know my life is not boring.
Sadly so at times.

I find your personal attack upsetting but I shall let it stand.
You seem a tad het up.

wibblywobblywobblebottom Thu 13-Mar-25 16:03:30

America didn't elect him to do what he's doing. He led on lowering prices on day one, he obviously has no intention of doing that. He has no intention of making America great again. He's all mouth and trousers. The good news is that the small staircase has been installed on Airforce One, which apparently means he's close to death. Couldn't happen to a nicer person.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Thu 13-Mar-25 16:09:26

What a horrible thing to say.
About anyone. Just awful.

Susieq62 Thu 13-Mar-25 16:17:15

FGT from my windy balcony in Portugal for the next two days I shall continue to challenge your extreme support for Trump ! My crippled grandfather demonstrated against the black shirts in the 30s and I am following his footsteps! So I ask of you again why not move to the US where your views would be appreciated by some !
Ps red wine alleviates my being het up

Allira Thu 13-Mar-25 16:21:23

FriedGreenTomatoes2

If you knew me SusiQ you would know my life is not boring.
Sadly so at times.

I find your personal attack upsetting but I shall let it stand.
You seem a tad het up.

No, I won't let it stand.
It's offensive.

AGAA4 Thu 13-Mar-25 16:21:54

Susieq62

FGT are you really in thrall to Trump and his lack of compassion to all in the world? Do you really admire dictators? You know the ones my grandfather and father fought to overcome? Maybe you
A Live in the wrong country
B Are just a s….t stirrer because life is a bit boring where you live?

Do you think the US would give you citizenship due to you Trump mania??

I won't report this but it's an attack on another poster so not in the spirit of Gransnet.
I will leave it there for others to see.

Allira Thu 13-Mar-25 16:24:37

wibblywobblywobblebottom

America didn't elect him to do what he's doing. He led on lowering prices on day one, he obviously has no intention of doing that. He has no intention of making America great again. He's all mouth and trousers. The good news is that the small staircase has been installed on Airforce One, which apparently means he's close to death. Couldn't happen to a nicer person.

My post about MAGA was tongue-in-cheek, I hope you realise.