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Nothing but nothing, can excuse Israel breaking the cease-fire in Gaza

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Claremont Tue 18-Mar-25 18:43:30

- without warning, in the middle of the night- in the middle of Ramadan.

NOTHING.

Claremont Fri 21-Mar-25 09:35:06

Oreo

I expect you have many young friends there that tell you this Claremont hmm

No, my Jewish friends from Israel are in the same age group, thanks.

Oreo Fri 21-Mar-25 09:40:28

So many friends, it must be wonderful.

Oreo Fri 21-Mar-25 09:42:51

Whatever we think on here, or what our friends think, the bottom line is that Israel will protect itself and do whatever is necessary, and that’s it.

Anniebach Fri 21-Mar-25 09:43:59

Yes Oreo “never again”

foxie48 Fri 21-Mar-25 09:51:22

Oreo at the last election N got 23% of the votes and 32 seats out of 120. his government is an unstable coalition of groups that he is having to agree with in order to hold on to power. Israel has not had a stable government since 2019 and his government is held together by his coalition with the far right Nationalist party RTZ -Otzma led by Smotrich. 77% of those who voted, did not vote for N or Smotrich, who got 11% pf the votes but currently it's Smotrich who is calling the shots!

Oreo Fri 21-Mar-25 09:54:52

Doesn’t matter foxie48 that’s the way politics and elections happen, somebody ends up as leader.
Whoever ends up as PM here can often be a close call with them not getting high percentages .

Oreo Fri 21-Mar-25 09:55:22

Anniebach 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

AGAA4 Fri 21-Mar-25 09:57:27

And so the killing goes on in the name of defence.

Oreo Fri 21-Mar-25 10:01:02

Yes AGAA4 that’s what happens in any conflict, you carry on defending by eliminating as many of the enemy as possible until they give up or are routed.

Anniebach Fri 21-Mar-25 10:01:30

Defence comes after attack

Oreo Fri 21-Mar-25 10:12:54

Hamas could give in today and all conflict would be over.They are prolonging the misery in Gaza.

Wyllow3 Fri 21-Mar-25 10:16:24

You don't need to continue to kill innocent women, children the elderly, or cut off aid, when there was no new threat to Israel.

Attempts to continue the process of a fragile cease fire including hostage release were the alternative to more bombings, more dead.

Netanyahu's new regime are definitely the aggressors in respect of forcing Palestinians away from border regions all the way around Gaza to occupy what they see what is claimed to be a buffer zone but is de facto expansion into Gaza.

I think that the new players in the regime are prepared to sacrifice the hostages.

Anniebach Fri 21-Mar-25 10:30:54

No criticism of government of Gaza, Hamas, they carried out
attacks on innocent women, children,, the elderly, they could
release the hostages, they choose not to

AGAA4 Fri 21-Mar-25 10:34:15

Anniebach

Defence comes after attack

Defence should have been there before an attack. What Israel is doing is not appropriate defence. They have become a killing machine.

Anniebach Fri 21-Mar-25 10:45:15

What is appropriate defence ?

Aveline Fri 21-Mar-25 10:48:39

What is wrong with these people? What is wrong with people who defend Israel's completely disproportionate response?

Wyllow3 Fri 21-Mar-25 10:51:59

Anniebach why is the cutting of aid and the current bombing, and taking land, "appropriate defence" as things stand right now?

Would it not have been better to continue the slow negotiated hostage release and swapping prisoners?

Claremont Fri 21-Mar-25 10:54:06

Indeed, destroying a whole people, and then expelling those who have survived, without anywhere to go, from their own land, and without a right to return, is NOT APPROPRIATE response. And then to boast about building posh 5* holiday resorts for the 'victors' and divide up the riches with another dictator from the USA, is NOT APPROPRIATE response. And in the long run, will make Jewish people hugely more at risk of antisemitisim all around the world- as they will be part of this genocide, whether they approved of it, or not.

Despite the diabolical horrors of the Holocaust, the German people were not exterminated, aand were not excluded from their land with no right to return, were they?

This is genocide, and nothing else at this stage.

Anniebach Fri 21-Mar-25 10:55:58

Could Hamas be trusted after returning the bodies of a young mother and her two babies and a man over 80 ? The world was shocked, cities lit up their most famous buildings, not in the UK,

growstuff Fri 21-Mar-25 10:57:15

Oreo

Hamas could give in today and all conflict would be over.They are prolonging the misery in Gaza.

Dream on!

It's in Netanyahu's interest to keep Israel in a state of perpetual war.

Hamas has no incentive to give in. They've hardly got anything left to lose and almost certainly see death by being bombed as preferable to the rest of their lives in an Israeli jail and giving their land away.

Netanyahu scuppered the second phase of the peace negotiations because he has no intention of honouring the Israeli side of the agreement and couldn't give two hoots about the hostages.

Anniebach Fri 21-Mar-25 11:07:41

Surely it’s in the Hamas government interest to protect the people who voted them into power

Esmay Fri 21-Mar-25 11:08:57

Now Israel demonstrates more cruelty and brutality towards Palestinians for the World to see .
And killing people during Ramadan is a terrible and unforgiveable act .

Anniebach Fri 21-Mar-25 11:13:40

To other faiths ?

Anniebach Fri 21-Mar-25 11:18:58

Bringing religion into this is definitely ‘Rock Bottom And Still
Drilling’ , disgusting , I feel sick, such hatred

Jaberwok Fri 21-Mar-25 11:44:53

What I fail to understand is why, having been given vast sums of money, the government of Gaza (Hamas) didn't see fit to spend some of that money on civil defence? Surely, bearing in mind their hostile neighbour, and that the first duty of any government is the protection of its citizens, you would have thought that, like Israel, they would have had, at the very least some form of air raid shelters and other facilities for people to go to when necessary? Food and water storage for basic needs and other civil defence arrangements such as we had 80 odd years ago in WW2? This would at least help to minimise casualties, and protect and support ordinary people. Or, here's a thought, perhaps Hamas actually want hundreds of people killed and displaced for propaganda purposes? If so, it's certainly working, but of the two, One cares for its citizens the other clearly does not.