Is there an argument for saying that UK citizens who support Trump are unpatriotic?

One could question their judgement, their political intelligence, their awareness of the lunatic's foibles, but let's not accuse them of an absence of patriotism.

At the end of the day, how does a mere person know what the outcome is of any of Trump’s policies? Trump may be causing some harm to his own country- isn’t it a bit too early to say? And what does it mean to support Trump as a Uk voter?

I agree with RosiandhermMaw misguided, but not unpatriotic.

No.

Different opinions which I don't understand, but not unpatriotic.

I wasn't really asking for opinions (although thank you for adding to the discussion). Perhaps I could clarify by asking when does this sort of thinking about a foreign leader and country become "unpatriotic"?

No.
How can it be unpatriotic?

Supporting an enemy with which your country is at war is unpatriotic. We are not at war with the USA.

I wasn't really asking for opinions
So what was the point of the thread?

Depends what you mean by support.
Most of us are simply giving opinions.
So if someone openly admires Trump, is that support?
Your title for this thread ended with a question mark, so therefore you were inviting opinions. Just saying.

I was labelled as unpatriotic for voting to remain in the EU - in fact, the accuser called me a traitor.

However, as I genuinely believed our country's best interests were served by remaining in it - I think it was a silly observation.

It someone supports Trump's actions to date and thinks they too serve our nation's interests, they can hardly be considered treacherous - by the same token.

The fact that I, and a few others, think Trump is a raging, foolish, narcissist, is neither here nor there.

No. I think supporting Starmer is unpatriotic though.

PoliticsNerd

I wasn't really asking for opinions (although thank you for adding to the discussion). Perhaps I could clarify by asking when does this sort of thinking about a foreign leader and country become "unpatriotic"?

I'm confused! What is a discussion if not opinions? Why start a thread where you don't want opinions, what do you want, just single word replies "agree"?

In answer to henetha, a question mark simply indicates that the sentence before it is a question.

Rosie51 asked: "What is a discussion if not opinions?"
An unfounded opinion is not a discussion even though opinions formed are what makes a discussion. A discussion needs opinions that are grounded in something more than just a feeling or a hunch and that "something" is the explanation of how you arrive at your opinion. When opinions are unfounded, they don't add to the conversation; they weigh it down and prevent us from engaging with each other. A healthy discussion isn't just about having opinions, it's about being able to explain why you hold those opinions, and being open to having your opinions challenged and refined by evidence and reasoning.

I'll make an opinion that isn't unfounded, but reasoned.
Seeing as we can't get into the head of anyone else to see what they're really really thinking, then it's impossible to know if anyone, as a UK citizen, is properly unpatriotic for supporting Trump.

Certainly Farage and Reform supporters seem to support a system similar to Trumps in the US, so there are a lot of non patriots

I thought Brexit was all about taking back control? And yet companies eg Rolls Royce are now having to do exactly what Trump tells them if they want to trade with America.

No. Not at all.
You can love more than one country you know.

And deplore the government's of more than one country.

There is no link between patriotism and leadership it seems to me - if that's what you're asking.

There is no connect between admiring another leader and wishing ones own country had a leader like him/her and being patriotic/unpatriotic

Even many of those who will betray their country in wartime, do it from misplaced patriotism.

I don’t understand how anyone could admire Trump, even more so having listened to his disjointed ramblings about Alcatraz. Even the people around him looked embarrassed and uncomfortable.

MayBee70

I don’t understand how anyone could admire Trump, even more so having listened to his disjointed ramblings about Alcatraz. Even the people around him looked embarrassed and uncomfortable.

The Alcatraz idea was a joke, we visited last year, it’s tiny, only ever held around 200 prisoners, made notorious by films over the years. Compared with prisons even in the UK it was pretty tame, prisons today are far tougher, ruled by gangs within the prison.

The OP has asked in the thread title “ Is there an argument for saying that UK citizens who support Trump are unpatriotic?”

My answer is “No”.

You can support Trump and be patriotic and vice versa. One does not exclude the other.

Is there an argument for saying that UK citizens who support Trump are unpatriotic?

No.

I could add to that, but it would be an opinion and PN wasn't really asking for opinions.

Unless someone is actively supporting and campaigning for a leader of another nation who is actively at war with the U.K. of course it isn’t unpatriotic.

Over the years I have admired leaders of other nations, just as I have despaired about others.

I am extremely patriotic, adore my country of birth (UK) more so since living abroad.

I find it hard to understand why some people (yes I know, but am not sure how else to phrase it) accuse those who have voted differently to them or admire policies and indeed the ethos of another party are treated with disdain and on many occasions on GN called idiots, uneducated or on several threads suggesting a test in order to assess one’s capacity to vote…

I wonder if you were thinking of the Labour party and their admiration for all things communist over the last 100+ years or is your concern only for right wingers revering the likes of Trump?