Is there an argument for saying that UK citizens who support Trump are unpatriotic?

I think there's something going on at the moment that means the UTIN people may soon be able to reveal the details to border force...

I haven't followed this closely.

*ITIN

Just found a little vox pop.

www.instagram.com/reel/DB4mGPFy4G9/?igsh=M2kxNzVnbmNpNXV4

90 billion in 2022.
But beware as i haven't checked sources

itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/?hl=en-GB#:~:text=Grand%20Total%20of%20All%20Taxes,35.00%25

How do they pay their taxes if they are undocumented?

In the UK, part of the identification details at HMRC is a National Insurance number. I presume the US also has similar ways of identifying people and assessing how much tax they should be paying. How do the undocumented migrants get the equivalent?

Elegran
The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) provides them with an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN)
Everyone with an ITIN who has earned income have to file federal income tax returns. They may also need to file state and local income tax returns depending on where they live.

It's not like an NI number which is issued at birth (though we don't get it till we are 16 I think).

The ITIN number is specifically for those who have to file U.S. taxes but are not eligible for a Social Security Number..
As I said earlier these were not shared with border force - they are just to facilitate paying tax.
I'm pretty sure there is a change in process though re sharing the details.

I have just looked up who can have a tax number- here's the page - it specifically includes undocumented migrants:

www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/facts-about-individual-taxpayer-identification-number-itin?hl=en-GB

The Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) is a tax-processing number issued by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) to ensure that people—including undocumented immigrants—pay taxes even if they do not have a Social Security number (SSN) and regardless of their immigration status.

So with an ITIN number rather than an SS one, they pay taxes, so they officially exist, but have no entitlement to Social Security since they don't officially exist? Sounds like heads we win, tails you lose, yet a lot of noise about them not contributing to the nation.

Exactly!

Of course if you read the info (linked above) it's not only for undocumented people - it's basically for "foreigners" of all sorts

It says these people might have one if not entitled to an SS number

A foreign national legally residing in the United States who, based on number of days in the country, is filing a U.S. tax return.
A foreign national who is a student, professor, or researcher in the United States and is filing a U.S. tax return, but does not qualify to receive a SSN.
A dependent or spouse of a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident.
A dependent or spouse of a foreign national on a temporary visa.

Thought this would be interesting. It's from Times News
www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4_4iDuv8t4
The first third explains what the expert call a " joint investment agreement" rather than a trade agreement with Ukraine and is very close to the Memorandum of Agreement signed between Biden and Ukraine. It goes into a lot of detail on how it will work, which Ukraine is seeing as a success.

It also has a piece on the recent slump in the US economy and comments on some good results from this for Europe.

Thanks PoliticsNerd