Israel to Conquer Gaza part 2.

Quote Iam64 Fri 20-Jun-25 21:15:04
It’s heart breaking, devastating and feels increasingly impossible to hope for a two state solution
The actions of this Israeli govt and its IDF troops are inexcusable.
I readily acknowledge the lasting trauma from the holocaust, as do all thinking people. Sadly, the empathy felt towards Jewish people is being very badly affected by the bombing and starvation

Much empathy for Jews, the pogroms, the Holocaust, they couldn’t defend themselves, no home, no country, until
“Never Again”:

Annie, you don't believe the post about the little girl because it doesn't suit your views to believe it.

The girl still suffered terribly and it does come across (to me) as callous to totally discount her story, just because her country is run by an organisation designated a terrorist group by a significant minority of countries. She didn't vote for them.

aAnnie You havnt answered my question. I didnt think you would or could.

You believe a little girl could survive the intense pain of half her face being blown off and having both legs amputated without even painkillers ? I did ask medical teams at a hospital if a child could survive such horrors, I was told ‘ no the trauma was too severe ‘ , I question I do not accept regardless because it fits what I want

In the end, it will be what the international tribunals believe, when the government of Israel is held to account, for its war crimes and the genocide in Gaza.

I don’t know if this little girl survived or not.

Another little girl, Hind, age 5 didnt survive as she called for help on a phone. She was trapped in a car and begging fir help but was blown up together with the paramedics who came to her aid in an ambulance. Her conversation was recorded by the ambulance service, I heard her pleas for help and the reassurance that help was coming and it was heartbreaking listening , she was terrified. I believe her parents were dead in the car with her. The marked ambulance and the paramedics were all found semi buried nearby.
Just one story of one child but people of all ages have been killed. Thing is little children should be protected, not murdered. In very cold blood.

It’s interesting and somewhat disturbing that all the pro Palestinian supporters on this thread believe every report put out by the hamas run ‘health ministry’ but choose not to believe anything said by the Israeli side.
The first casualty of war is the truth so there will be lies and cover ups as there are in any war at times and deaths by ‘friendly fire’ but I wouldn’t believe a word put out by hamas propaganda on anything at all.

All human life should be protected

Maremia

In the end, it will be what the international tribunals believe, when the government of Israel is held to account, for its war crimes and the genocide in Gaza.

Except it isn’t genocide.
If that’s what Israel wanted they would be carpet bombing Gaza right now.
They aren’t.

Quote Oreo Fri 20-Jun-25 22:41:49
It’s interesting and somewhat disturbing that all the pro Palestinian supporters on this thread believe every report put out by the hamas run ‘health ministry’ but choose not to believe anything said by the Israeli side.
The first casualty of war is the truth so there will be lies and cover ups as there are in any war at times and deaths by ‘friendly fire’ but I wouldn’t believe a word put out by hamas propaganda on anything at all.

Same for me, are people killed ? Yes, it happens in wars, when
we bombed Dresden there is a figure of number believed killed, no breakdown of children and mothers as Hamas does every time

Criticising Israel’s bombing does not mean supporting Hamas. Did you mean Hamas when you referred to pro Palestinian posters, Oreo?

I do not support terrorism, the October attacks were horrific, inexcusable. I have some understanding and sympathy for the Israeli population. I can’t defend the continued bombing

The genocide continues, and now the risk of drought.

“The collapse of water systems in Gaza is threatening the territory with devastating drought as well as hunger, Unicef has warned, as medics reported that Israel had killed more desperate Palestinians seeking aid.

On Friday at least 24 people waiting for aid were killed by Israeli fire in central Gaza, according to local health authorities, in addition to other deaths by airstrikes.

Marwan Abu Nasser, the director of al-Awda hospital, in the town of Nuseirat, said his staff had dealt with 21 injured and 24 dead people”.

A hospital director and local health authorities = Hamas

Sigh 😞

If only the IDF, with its superior training, military resources, surveillance capability, and armaments, had chosen to destroy Hamas after the Atrocity, in a different way. But it didn't.
And so

AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL has declared that the situation in Gaza is GENOCIDE.

Quote Maremia Sat 21-Jun-25 08:42:02
If only the IDF, with its superior training, military resources, surveillance capability, and armaments, had chosen to destroy Hamas after the Atrocity, in a different way. But it didn't.
And so

AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL has declared that the situation in Gaza is GENOCIDE.

Doesn’t make it true

Doesn't make it untrue

Anniebach and Oreo do you deny the evidence in front of our own eyes, on TV screens, of thousands of Gazan people desperately scrabbling for aid?

It is inhumane!

Our eyes have seen it … it’s not about believing Hamas; it’s about believing what we have seen.

The BBC says it has decided not to broadcast a documentary about doctors working in Gaza, due to impartiality concerns it has surrounding the production.
Gaza: Doctors Under Attack was commissioned by the BBC but produced by an independent production company. It was originally scheduled for broadcast in February, but has not yet aired on any BBC outlet.
In a statement, the BBC said it was "determined to report all aspects of the conflict in the Middle East impartially and fairly".

Amnesty International
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With the world looking elsewhere, the militarization of aid adds another layer to Israel’s deliberate imposition of genocidal conditions against Palestinians in the occupied Gaza Strip.

The Gur Synagogue on Lampard Grove was targeted in the early hours of Friday. Images shared online show torn holy books scattered across the floor, smashed cabinets and lockers, and a visibly shaken community as police carried out forensic work at the scene.

Anniebach

The Gur Synagogue on Lampard Grove was targeted in the early hours of Friday. Images shared online show torn holy books scattered across the floor, smashed cabinets and lockers, and a visibly shaken community as police carried out forensic work at the scene.

That’s very sad Anniebach.

Maremia

If only the IDF, with its superior training, military resources, surveillance capability, and armaments, had chosen to destroy Hamas after the Atrocity, in a different way. But it didn't.
And so

AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL has declared that the situation in Gaza is GENOCIDE.

I would be very interested to hear your ideas on how the IDF could have gone after hamas differently
As for Amnesty International declaring anything at all, who cares?
We don’t recognise it as genocide here in the UK, for the simple reason that it isn’t.

www.jewishnews.co.uk/synagogue-ransacked-and-torah-scrolls-desecrated-in-stamford-hill-burglary/
Suspects have been arrested so it will be interesting to see who they are.

As for Amnesty International declaring anything at all, who cares?

As you’re asking Oreo, I care!