Israel attack on Iran

They are all neighbours of Iran and will have to live with what emerges after this war is over so are very cautious not to be seen siding with Israel.

The news is just suggesting that Trump will be making a significant decision within the next few hours.

So the question is whether the USA gets involved in hostilities or puts pressure on Israel to pull back.

Or even I suppose try to resurrect the talks with Iran - I doubt that though.

There is the possibility that Trump will go for a regime change, by suggesting Israel kill Khamenei (sp?)

OldFrill, that's a very comprehensive explanation of what the adjoining States are thinking/doing, thanks.
Yes David49, trying to keep their heads down.
And Whitewavemark2, I remember one of the 'splits' in Iraq during the Gulf war 2003, being between the Shia muslims in Basra, and the Sunni regions.
Meanwhile in the hell that is Gaza, was it this or the other thread 50 shootings of people queuing for food?

Interesting, but previous 'reports' say he persuaded the Israelis against that assassination.

Whitewavemark2

The news is just suggesting that Trump will be making a significant decision within the next few hours.

So the question is whether the USA gets involved in hostilities or puts pressure on Israel to pull back.

Or even I suppose try to resurrect the talks with Iran - I doubt that though.

Now Israel has started he won’t tell them to pull back -they wouldnt take notice if he did.
My bet is either an ultimatum to Iran or direct action to bomb the nuclear sites

The other thing is, perhaps the Iranians have considered this possibilty and have his successor in the wings? He is an old man, so apart from this war, perhaps they have already prepared for the future?

Or Trump does his usual, nothing?

Trump is in a difficult position. On one side he has those saying he should go in and help Israel and on the other the Maga group who want him to drop Israel.
They say that he vowed to put America first so involvement in the war with Israel is breaking that promise.
He has pressure too from Netanyahu to join them in attacking Iran.

The prime objective is to destroy Irans nuclear threat, not to conquer them or kill civilians when that task is done Israel can stand down.
For a change Trump has been decisive the 60 day negation was over Israel got the go ahead next day.

David49

The prime objective is to destroy Irans nuclear threat, not to conquer them or kill civilians when that task is done Israel can stand down.
For a change Trump has been decisive the 60 day negation was over Israel got the go ahead next day.

Opinions vary on whether Trump gave the go ahead and Israel needs the US to destroy the bomb that's buried deep.
Whether the US will do this is something we don't know.
As I said Trump is under pressure to dump Israel.
He will only help now if there is something in it for him and his America first stays in place.

Trump has given Iran the ultimatum, Khameni has replied defiantly, so the US is probably loading the bombs now. The threat to kill Khameni counts for nothing, he is a religious fanatic and willing to die for the cause.

Of course there is time for Trump to back down again.

I fervently hope ( but not optimistic) that we don’t get involved.

Iran has threatened to attack American bases if the US aid Israel.

Meanwhile Putin watches carefully saying Ukraine is forgotten. Happy about oil price rises but not about losing Iran as a close ally. Russia is unlikely to give military aid to Iran but who knows what Putin will do.

AGAA4

Iran has threatened to attack American bases if the US aid Israel.

Meanwhile Putin watches carefully saying Ukraine is forgotten. Happy about oil price rises but not about losing Iran as a close ally. Russia is unlikely to give military aid to Iran but who knows what Putin will do.

Israel will be watching for arms supplies going into Iran, probably Israel has already closed airfields in Iran. In the meantime the drones Iran has been supplying Russia will have stopped.
US bases will be prepared for attacks and ready to respond, not just bases the US has at least 2 Carrier groups in the area.

Off topic, but connected, does anyone know how Zelenski fared at the G7? I know he didn't meet up with Trump.

I don’t think he would have got much joy from Trump anyway.

Trump is too busy with his next piece of theatre. This time a real war.

Trump is saying he is considering getting involved and helping Israel in the attack.
This would go against the promise he made to the American people that he would not get involved in any more wars. It's said this could be a defining moment for his presidency.

Interesting tweet.

I haven’t checked it out, but it is food for thought if correct.

“Iran hasn’t started a war in over 200 years.

Israel has invaded or attacked every one of its neighbors — Egypt (1956, 1967), Lebanon (1978, 1982, 2006), Syria (Golan Heights, near-daily airstrikes), Jordan (1967).

It still occupies Palestine & is engaged in a bloody genocide.

But sure — tell me Iran is the real threat to peace in the Middle East.”

AGAA4

Trump is saying he is considering getting involved and helping Israel in the attack.
This would go against the promise he made to the American people that he would not get involved in any more wars. It's said this could be a defining moment for his presidency.

I’m beginning to see push back from Trump supporters on SM.

This is not what they voted for.

Like this

Israel acting as the aggressor yet again and playing the victim card. Sickening.

Whitewavemark2

AGAA4

Trump is saying he is considering getting involved and helping Israel in the attack.
This would go against the promise he made to the American people that he would not get involved in any more wars. It's said this could be a defining moment for his presidency.

I’m beginning to see push back from Trump supporters on SM.

This is not what they voted for.

Like this

It not what they voted for and it if was going to mean boots on the ground there would serious opposition. I don’t think “bombing the hell” of Iran is going to cause more problems than he already has, serious casualties may change that.

Iran might not have started any wars but it has supplied enough ammunition to start, and prolong plenty of others.

I’m behind Israel all the way on this conflict.

Haven’t the west learned any lessons from the invasion of Iraq?

Tulsi Gabbard, who is the USA National Director of Intelligence recently carried out a check on the nuclear facilities in Iran and reported back that there was no evidence of 'development'.
She has since been excluded from White House meetings on the topic.
Trump prefers to listen to whatever Netanyahu is telling him.