Israel attack on Iran

Parsley3

It's quite a big deal to support Hamas and therefore allow it to to grow strong enough to attack your own people.

They were supposed to be running Gaza which is what they wanted, were elected at the start by the people there.Gaza had free elections.

If Israel go in hard, with the support of Europe, there should be no need for Trump to say yay or nay, surely? Isn't it enough that the USA supply the arms.

Oreo

Whitewavemark2

Parsley3

www.972mag.com/netanyahu-hamas-october-7-adam-raz/
Well this was a real eye opener for me. Netanyahu supported Hamas for years! I needed to look at the truth of this but there are so many links to prove the facts that I have chosen one at random to post. It is the people of Israel who have paid the price for this self serving policy as WWM2 shows in her Wikipedia extract.

As far as I am concerned Netanyahu is an evil number 1 b…….d

Well, you would think that wouldn’t you? As all of your comments are pro Palestine.

That’s unfair.

AGAA4

I agree Whitewave.

Trump is now wavering saying I may do it or I may not in reference to helping Israel.
He has proved himself to be a weak leader. A strong leader would make an informed decision not faff around.

To be a strong leader you need to have an overview of the issues and take expert advice on the complexities. Trump can't do the first because he's thick & won't do the second because he thinks he's too clever to need advice.

Netanyahu's support of Hamas meant they received huge amounts of money. It all blew up in Ocober23 when so many Israelis lost their lives.

AGAA4

Netanyahu's support of Hamas meant they received huge amounts of money. It all blew up in Ocober23 when so many Israelis lost their lives.

Supporting hamas meant splitting up different sides and was a gamble.How would you have fared I wonder being tasked with opposing Palestinian factions vying for power?

Oreo

AGAA4

Netanyahu's support of Hamas meant they received huge amounts of money. It all blew up in Ocober23 when so many Israelis lost their lives.

Supporting hamas meant splitting up different sides and was a gamble.How would you have fared I wonder being tasked with opposing Palestinian factions vying for power?

Netanyahu’s aim was to keep the two Palestinian factions apart by funding one side.

Netanyahu is dead set against a Palestinian state if any sort whatsoever, and his aim is to rid the region entirely of the original owners of the land.

Because of his actions he has guaranteed violence and dissent in the region for generations. The man is a menace.

I haven't been in that position Oreo so how would I know. Probably handled things better though.

In your view and others too, but certainly not everyone by a long chalk.

AGAA4

I haven't been in that position Oreo so how would I know. Probably handled things better though.

I bet

No need to be snippy. We know you're a supporter of Netanyahu so will agree with everything he has done and is doing.
That's your opinion and of course you are entitled to it as others are to theirs.

Israel have been supporting Muslim Brotherhood which morphed into Hamas, since the 1970's in order that Palestine didn't become a one party state under the PLO which Israel deemed might well negotiate a two- state solution backed internationally.
There was a difficult situation when Hamas were elected & Hamas paramilitaries were targeting Fatah supporters in Gaza & driving them out, but Israel's support helped Hamas win the election in the first place.

But wait, not everyone in the White House appears to be gung ho. That Maga Mamma, Marjory Taylor Green is opposing any thought of military intervention/interference by the Trump administration as it wouldn't be 'puting America first.' And that's a first for her.

'putting'...maybe I am so used to trying Putin.

Oreo

AGAA4

Netanyahu's support of Hamas meant they received huge amounts of money. It all blew up in Ocober23 when so many Israelis lost their lives.

Supporting hamas meant splitting up different sides and was a gamble.How would you have fared I wonder being tasked with opposing Palestinian factions vying for power?

But that isn’t correct. It is thought (and Netanyahu certainly thought) that the PA would have been the unifying force and the two entities would have operated as one unit. They were in line to win an election.

They would have been stronger with a United government.

valdavi

Israel have been supporting Muslim Brotherhood which morphed into Hamas, since the 1970's in order that Palestine didn't become a one party state under the PLO which Israel deemed might well negotiate a two- state solution backed internationally.
There was a difficult situation when Hamas were elected & Hamas paramilitaries were targeting Fatah supporters in Gaza & driving them out, but Israel's support helped Hamas win the election in the first place.

Yes

I hope Trump keeps the US out of this as Iran have threatened to attack US bases. If US personnel are killed then the situation becomes more serious and Trump would have to respond.
America first he said and no more involvement in other people's wars.

I wonder how many folk in Israel are aware of this? And then October '23 happened. That would make it feel even more unbearable.

It will depend on which White House faction prevails.

Maremia

I wonder how many folk in Israel are aware of this? And then October '23 happened. That would make it feel even more unbearable.

Well The Times of Israel has a big article on it. I’ve quoted a bit. I would imagine if you were an ordinary Israeli you would feel very uncertain as to the future with Netanyahu.

And now he has drawn them into a war.

Exactly.

The isolationists amongst Trump's supporters are trying to get a bill through to stop him entering a war with Iran without the approval of congress.
This has split his supporters. The more hawkish want to help Israel and join the war.
Trump has to make decision one way or the other.

Whitewavemark2

valdavi

Israel have been supporting Muslim Brotherhood which morphed into Hamas, since the 1970's in order that Palestine didn't become a one party state under the PLO which Israel deemed might well negotiate a two- state solution backed internationally.
There was a difficult situation when Hamas were elected & Hamas paramilitaries were targeting Fatah supporters in Gaza & driving them out, but Israel's support helped Hamas win the election in the first place.

Yes

But then Hamas turned the tables and betrayed the trust that Netenyahu had in them, indoctrinating the whole population to destroy Israel.
Now Hamas has betrayed Gaza bringing death and destruction on them, such nice people.

David49

Whitewavemark2

valdavi

Israel have been supporting Muslim Brotherhood which morphed into Hamas, since the 1970's in order that Palestine didn't become a one party state under the PLO which Israel deemed might well negotiate a two- state solution backed internationally.
There was a difficult situation when Hamas were elected & Hamas paramilitaries were targeting Fatah supporters in Gaza & driving them out, but Israel's support helped Hamas win the election in the first place.

Yes

But then Hamas turned the tables and betrayed the trust that Netenyahu had in them, indoctrinating the whole population to destroy Israel.
Now Hamas has betrayed Gaza bringing death and destruction on them, such nice people.

Do you honestly think that Netanyahu didn't know what was going on in Gaza?