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Israel attack on Iran

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AGAA4 Fri 13-Jun-25 08:24:30

This is a serious situation. Netanyahu has gone against advice from the US and has attacked Iran.
Iran will retaliate and Israel has closed down today waiting for the attack.
Although the US has distanced itself from this only warning Iran not to target US bases it's inevitable that they may get pulled into this war.

AGAA4 Wed 18-Jun-25 17:06:05

Netanyahu enabled them. He is responsible.

growstuff Wed 18-Jun-25 17:06:55

I don't believe for one moment that Netanyahu "trusted" Hamas - he thought he could outwit them.

David49 Wed 18-Jun-25 17:20:13

growstuff

I don't believe for one moment that Netanyahu "trusted" Hamas - he thought he could outwit them.

Gaza doesn’t feel so good trusting them

Grantanow Wed 18-Jun-25 17:41:55

valdavi

AGAA4

I agree Whitewave.

Trump is now wavering saying I may do it or I may not in reference to helping Israel.
He has proved himself to be a weak leader. A strong leader would make an informed decision not faff around.

To be a strong leader you need to have an overview of the issues and take expert advice on the complexities. Trump can't do the first because he's thick & won't do the second because he thinks he's too clever to need advice.

Trump thick? I doubt it. He saw off a slate of Republican candidates before his first election to President, has taken effective control of the Republican Party and has a number of foreign Prime Ministers dancing attendance. I don't like him and I doubt his policies will prove effective but he is not to be underestimated.

Maremia Wed 18-Jun-25 17:42:28

Haven't seen a single post saying that Hamas are the good guys.

Interesting, growstuff, Netanyau had the impressive Israeli intelligence service at his disposal.

ronib Wed 18-Jun-25 18:46:55

One of my sons rang me to say that he wouldn’t be called up as he was in a protected profession - such is the mood of the country. (Uk). It’s very disappointing to hear the younger generation even thinking like this.

growstuff Wed 18-Jun-25 18:55:32

David49

growstuff

I don't believe for one moment that Netanyahu "trusted" Hamas - he thought he could outwit them.

Gaza doesn’t feel so good trusting them

If Netanyahu trusted Hamas, he was an idiot - and I don't believe for one moment that Netanyahu is an idiot. He's probably one of the most wily political operators around. Netanyahu used Hamas to divide Palestinians. Both are against Fatah, who are in favour of a two-state solution. Netanyahu thought that by keeping Hamas on his side, he could isolate Fatah.

growstuff Wed 18-Jun-25 18:58:58

ronib

One of my sons rang me to say that he wouldn’t be called up as he was in a protected profession - such is the mood of the country. (Uk). It’s very disappointing to hear the younger generation even thinking like this.

I'd love to know what the British armed forces would do with millions of untrained, reluctant fighters.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 18-Jun-25 19:01:54

growstuff I can tell you straight from the (officer’s) horses mouth they dread that more than the current situation.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 18-Jun-25 20:10:17

GrannyGravy13

growstuff I can tell you straight from the (officer’s) horses mouth they dread that more than the current situation.

Our fathers’ managed the news recruits whilst fighting a war.

They need to get a grip!

GrannyGravy13 Wed 18-Jun-25 20:22:56

Whitewavemark2 it is not a matter of getting a grip as you put it.

Warfare is totally different now as opposed to WWII.

Professional service men and women are highly trained in multiple areas.

Claremont Wed 18-Jun-25 20:45:33

MayBee70

Oreo

Whitewavemark2

Parsley3

www.972mag.com/netanyahu-hamas-october-7-adam-raz/
Well this was a real eye opener for me. Netanyahu supported Hamas for years! I needed to look at the truth of this but there are so many links to prove the facts that I have chosen one at random to post. It is the people of Israel who have paid the price for this self serving policy as WWM2 shows in her Wikipedia extract.

As far as I am concerned Netanyahu is an evil number 1 b…….d

Well, you would think that wouldn’t you? As all of your comments are pro Palestine.hmm

That’s unfair.

A lot more than unfair. Totally wrong and slander.

Claremont Wed 18-Jun-25 21:23:09

Oreo

David49

Whitewavemark2

The news is just suggesting that Trump will be making a significant decision within the next few hours.

So the question is whether the USA gets involved in hostilities or puts pressure on Israel to pull back.

Or even I suppose try to resurrect the talks with Iran - I doubt that though.

Now Israel has started he won’t tell them to pull back -they wouldnt take notice if he did.
My bet is either an ultimatum to Iran or direct action to bomb the nuclear sites

David49 I would like Trump to give the order to have direct action, go in strong and bomb the underground nuclear sites.
It’s a chance now to break the regime or at the least put the mad mullahs back in their box.

This comment chills me to the bone. The possible consequences could be the worst the world has ever encountered.

In the meantime, reports that 12 F-22s have just landed at Lakenheath with at least 4 tankers at Mildenhall.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 18-Jun-25 21:32:16

Claremont the F-22’s arrived at Lakenheath in April.

Google is your friend as opposed to catastrophe theorising.

Claremont Wed 18-Jun-25 21:39:40

From the information I have been given,, this is a new arrival of 12 more tonight.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 18-Jun-25 21:43:38

Claremont

From the information I have been given,, this is a new arrival of 12 more tonight.

I can only assume you are a Trump mole

As anyone with any integrity wouldn’t divulge this information if it is true

Allira Wed 18-Jun-25 22:08:08

GrannyGravy13

Claremont

From the information I have been given,, this is a new arrival of 12 more tonight.

I can only assume you are a Trump mole

As anyone with any integrity wouldn’t divulge this information *if it is true*

Quite.

However, anyone who divulged State secrets could find themselves in court.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 19-Jun-25 02:05:50

Actually I thought that information was on a news channel? The planes were being tracked as they flew towards Europe snd the Mediterranean from the USA?

growstuff Thu 19-Jun-25 04:09:55

GrannyGravy13

Claremont

From the information I have been given,, this is a new arrival of 12 more tonight.

I can only assume you are a Trump mole

As anyone with any integrity wouldn’t divulge this information *if it is true*

It doesn't appear to be top secret:

theaviationist.com/2025/06/18/us-military-build-up-continues-middle-east/

TheatreLover Thu 19-Jun-25 06:15:56

Whitewavemark2

Actually I thought that information was on a news channel? The planes were being tracked as they flew towards Europe snd the Mediterranean from the USA?

I can't remember where I saw it, but you are correct, the planes were being tracked as they flew from the USA to Europe.

CariadAgain Thu 19-Jun-25 06:45:41

Whitewavemark2

Actually I thought that information was on a news channel? The planes were being tracked as they flew towards Europe snd the Mediterranean from the USA?

There are certainly channels up there on YouTube monitoring flights - the ones I've seen are American - but I guess there are British ones too. I could be well-informed re what the Americans are up to as regards what they have up in the air (presidential plane included) if I chose to follow it.

One can find out quite a bit if you choose to by hunting around....

CariadAgain Thu 19-Jun-25 06:49:01

Speaking of finding out the news we don't get told or we do (but it's biased) - Al Jazeera is actually pretty good...but what I would really like is to find out where there is, say, Scandinavian news channels up on YouTube or the like - in English obviously (as the only other language I speak is American LOL).

A good impartial world channel run from Denmark for instance would be ideal for trying to get info. that comes over as biased (or not at all). I want the British viewpoint - but I'd like to see an objective outsider viewpoint from one of the "modern" Western countries as I call them.

CariadAgain Thu 19-Jun-25 06:49:53

Altered - "info that comes as unbiased".

petra Thu 19-Jun-25 07:39:58

Claremont

From the information I have been given,, this is a new arrival of 12 more tonight.

It looks as if your information I have been given bubble has been busted. 😂

AGAA4 Thu 19-Jun-25 08:14:15

Iran have hit a hospital in Israel. This is really dreadful but the hypocrisy of Netanyahu in calling those who target hospitals as criminal terrorists is shocking when Israel has destroyed most hospitals in Gaza.