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Israel attack on Iran

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AGAA4 Fri 13-Jun-25 08:24:30

This is a serious situation. Netanyahu has gone against advice from the US and has attacked Iran.
Iran will retaliate and Israel has closed down today waiting for the attack.
Although the US has distanced itself from this only warning Iran not to target US bases it's inevitable that they may get pulled into this war.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 20-Jun-25 20:21:17

My post should read armed forces

Allira Fri 20-Jun-25 20:24:29

GrannyGravy13

I sincerely hope that there are no other military families reading this thread.

I am utterly disgusted, shocked and disappointed at the lack of respect, support and compassion for our armed.

You will all be begging for them if we are attacked by an enemy…

I find it quite shocking.

However, I realise not everyone has an understanding of the function of our Armed Forces.

Claremont Fri 20-Jun-25 20:26:52

GG13 ''I am utterly disgusted, shocked and disappointed at the lack of respect, support and compassion for our armed.''

not a single word of disrespect in the above posts, none.

What is being said is that it is wrong to lure young people from diffcult background into the Armed Forces, with offers of lots of fun and activities, and money in some cases, witout making them aware of exactly what they are signing up for, especially young teenagers, and often at school. And without proper support, often, after they have served. Saying this is not disrespectful to those soldiers at all.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 20-Jun-25 20:27:47

Claremont you have no idea.

Allira Fri 20-Jun-25 20:33:35

GrannyGravy13

Claremont you have no idea.

not a single word of disrespect in the above posts, none

I see plenty.

Claremont Fri 20-Jun-25 20:45:37

GrannyGravy13

Claremont you have no idea.

He had. I so miss real politcians like Tony Benn. His speech should be shown and heard, again and again. WW2 was an exception.

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Allira Fri 20-Jun-25 20:50:47

WW2 was an exception
Really?

World War One was called
'The War to End All Wars'.

My father was in the Services then.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 20-Jun-25 20:52:26

It is a totally different world since his speech.

AGAA4 Fri 20-Jun-25 20:56:21

My father was a soldier in WW2. He sometimes had nightmares about what he had seen. It took him a long time to talk about it.
I wouldn't want to see any of our armed forces go to war.
I did say earlier that I admired those men and women who would do that to defend our country.
They deserve our respect.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 20-Jun-25 21:03:13

AGAA4

My father was a soldier in WW2. He sometimes had nightmares about what he had seen. It took him a long time to talk about it.
I wouldn't want to see any of our armed forces go to war.
I did say earlier that I admired those men and women who would do that to defend our country.
They deserve our respect.

Our AC has been to Bosnia, Kuwait, Iraq and Afghanistan.

He has witnessed things nobody should.

I am immensely grateful and proud of them and their fellow combatants.

AGAA4 Fri 20-Jun-25 21:14:38

You are right to be proud of your son GG13. I am grateful to all our armed forces. Where would we be without them.
I'm sorry if you have been upset by my posts.

Allira Fri 20-Jun-25 22:07:21

I wouldn't want to see any of our armed forces go to war.

No-one wants war except warmongering leaders.

However, we should be very grateful to those who have defended and continue to defend us.

Therd is a service for peace at our local church tomorrow.

Allira Fri 20-Jun-25 22:09:24

They deserve our respect.
Thank you, AGAA4.

Oreo Fri 20-Jun-25 22:53:11

Nobody wants war but there are times when it’s necessary.

Oreo Fri 20-Jun-25 22:54:24

Claremont
A little respect for serving men and women in the UK wouldn’t come amiss.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 21-Jun-25 08:19:59

Reading overnight, that weapons experts are casting doubt on the so called “bunker buster” bomb’s ability to knock out the facility Iran has deep under a mountain.

Doubt has also been indicated on Israel’s strategic gamble to bring about regime change through violence. It is being suggested that if Israel kills Khamenei then this will endanger the whole region with instability and the real risk of bringing in the bigger powers.

China is already making noises over Israel’s activities, and I suspect Putin will not be far behind as Iran has been a good partner in Putin’s recent war.

The obvious choice it seems is to negotiate and get into place an agreement similar to the one agreed with Obama, the U.K., Germany and France in 2016.

What good is endless war?

petra Sat 21-Jun-25 08:33:08

GrannyGravy13

AGAA4

My father was a soldier in WW2. He sometimes had nightmares about what he had seen. It took him a long time to talk about it.
I wouldn't want to see any of our armed forces go to war.
I did say earlier that I admired those men and women who would do that to defend our country.
They deserve our respect.

Our AC has been to Bosnia, Kuwait, Iraq and Afghanistan.

He has witnessed things nobody should.

I am immensely grateful and proud of them and their fellow combatants.

So do we 👏👏👏👏
Do try to ignore some members posts. I try but don’t always succeed 😥

Maremia Sat 21-Jun-25 08:34:34

There was a report online a couple of days ago showing a surge of flights from China into Iran.
NATO meeting in the Netherlands from the 24th of June. This is bound to be o the agenda

Claremont Sat 21-Jun-25 08:39:31

War is sometimes necessary.

But far far too often, it is NOT. Israel didn't have to go to war with Iran. And we now know that going into Irak and Afghanistan was a disaster. WW1 was just a massacre on all sides. That does NOT, in any way disrespect our Armed Forces.

Children should not ever be recruited with the lure of some training and lots of fun. Never. Not in Germany, not in Africa, not anywhere. I shall withdraw from this thread.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 21-Jun-25 08:39:41

Maremia

There was a report online a couple of days ago showing a surge of flights from China into Iran.
NATO meeting in the Netherlands from the 24th of June. This is bound to be o the agenda

Yes. I wonder whether it was weapons delivery? Can’t think what else.

silverlining48 Sat 21-Jun-25 08:43:33

I appreciate that the families of servicemen @nd women will naturally be very concerned, because we are living in uncertain times, but I dont see any disrespect on this thread to our armed forces. We need them and appreciate what they do.

Maremia Sat 21-Jun-25 08:46:36

Yes Claremont, the most 'disrespectful' thing against our armed forces is to take them into unnecessary war .

silverlining48 Sat 21-Jun-25 08:51:36

100% agree with you Maremia.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 21-Jun-25 09:07:32

silverlining48

I appreciate that the families of servicemen @nd women will naturally be very concerned, because we are living in uncertain times, but I dont see any disrespect on this thread to our armed forces. We need them and appreciate what they do.

According to one poster our armed forces personnel are tricked/seduced into joining by promises of adventure, then let down…

lafergar Sat 21-Jun-25 09:14:26

I don't know in what way I've shown disrespect.