Trump has attacked Iran

Trump has played a blinder.

Troops are leaving the Iranian forces in droves and joining the opposition., which is what the great majority of Iranian people want. The opposition have a leader already in place. The people want old Iran (Persia) back and an end to suppression, most of the leaders of `the regime` have been wiped out overnight

Jordan and Quatar have launched fighter jets to help wipe out the Iranian oppressors

Tousi.tv
His father is Iranian and in Iran now. Tousi was born in Iran. He is very thankful for the Israeli action

It really does seem as though peace will come to the middle east. Hezbollah have co-ordinated with Israel and will not be helping the Iranian regime

www.cnbctv18.com/world/for-3-decades-israeli-pm-netanyahu-has-claimed-iran-months-away-from-nuclear-weapons-19622919.htm
As you say, there is plenty of proof Maremia. This very morning I heard clips on the radio of Netanyahu making claims about Iranian nuclear capacity going back to 1996. He has fulfilled his desire to attack Iran so what will he set his sights on next?

Anniebach

Quote Maremia Mon 23-Jun-25 08:31:20
That 'the majority of the people support his stance' does not negate Claremont's opinion that Netanyahu has been wanting to do this for decades. There is plenty of videod evidence to support Claremont's assertion.

An opinion is not an assertion

There is plenty of evidence of him clearly saying so for over 20 years- much of it I have shared on here. So this is not an 'opinion', but clear 'fact'.

I also posted a video of him saying he wanted to attack Palestinians VERY HARD, in 97!

Kissngate, your remark about Trump's son-in-law was surprising.

Claremont

I also posted a video of him saying he wanted to attack Palestinians VERY HARD, in 97!

Not forgetting Smotrich, member of Israeli government, who said he wanted to cleanse Gaza of all Palestinians.

I'm the mother two two half Persian daughters with family in Iran. We get news from the ground daily. We are hopeful things will be ok. That's all I am saying

Iran has been "cruising for a bruising" for a long time and by a lot of people: a thorn in the side of Israel for a long time.
Trump has gone up in my approval, or learning the job better. Decisive action was need to thwart Iran's support for terrorist .groups.

JenniferEccles

Iran apparently has a number of secretly placed nuclear enrichment facilities, buried far underground in mountainous areas, well protected from attack.
The US has ‘bunker busting bombs’ which it’s said are powerful enough to destroy the facility.

Trump has said the mission was successful.

I can understand the fear and concerns expressed on here, but isn’t this possibly good news?

Does the world really want a country like Iran to be permitted to continue building its nuclear arsenal?

It may be that Iran was working towards this. However, I'm sure you have seen by now what Iran has responded with. Have you also seen what Putin has responded with?

You see, either way, this is not going to end well. And ...really, trump has just hastened it "not ending well", and that includes a whole laundry list from Iran of what it promises to do, now incorporating with Putin has come forth to share from his point of view.

I am a dual US/UK citizen. I was born and raised in California. My family is there. My son, my granddaughter, and more family.

This is not going to be good for the US. And I am sure many can quickly surmise that is not going to be good for the UK, either.

So really, poking someone with a stick, such as trump has done, really wasn't needed at this exact moment and most certainly not the way he did it and not the way he is speaking and acting.

He continues to break laws and avoid consulting the actual Constitution of the United States. For some reason, he is not held to account for such things.

Regardless, I hope with all my heart, that people stay safe.I would and have suggested to my family to stay away from very crowded places if they can, such as sport stadiums, concerts and other large gatherings. I do believe we are about to see something we've not really seen in America for a very long time.

Maremia

Sorry Cossy, and apologies to anyone who is feeling stressed about the situation, I have just read a most depressing article on Facebook, and I am sure the details will be replicated elsewhere, but, leaving aside the legality of acting without the consent of Congress etc, it would appear that the mega expensive bombing has not achieved its purpose.
GNs have posted and explained upthread about the lack of nuclear 'fall out' after the bombing.
In this article 'observers' are quoted as having witnessed multiple tranportations of what is most likely to be the essential nuclear resources.
Putin is hosting a visit from Iranian officials, and has said that 'States' will be queuing up to offer help to Iran to continue and complete the programme.
Trump is begging Xi to help keep clear the Straits of Hormuz. Meanwhile China has sent flights of mystery planes to Iran.
So, it is neither resolved nor over yet.

Don’t be sorry, & thanks for any updates.

IMO, it’s all due to power mad, power hungry, dictators, Trump, Netanyahu, Putin - all crazy leaders, wanting more and more power, all taunting each other and playing some insane game which will have knock on effects on us all.

No, I don’t support Hamas, neither do I support their kidnapping and mutilating and murders, but I also don’t support wily-nily bombing and children and babies starving. It’s all so hideous and tragic!

He's a dangerous dictator.

Boz

Iran has been "cruising for a bruising" for a long time and by a lot of people: a thorn in the side of Israel for a long time.
Trump has gone up in my approval, or learning the job better. Decisive action was need to thwart Iran's support for terrorist .groups.

Good grief, analyse what you’re stating!

Willowsweb

I'm the mother two two half Persian daughters with family in Iran. We get news from the ground daily. We are hopeful things will be ok. That's all I am saying

🙏🙏🙏🙏

AGAA4

The irony is that Trump's attack on Iran now means that Iran will definitely build a nuclear weapon.
There is still doubt from experts in the US that there was imminent danger from Iran.
Also Trump acted illegally by not seeking approval from Congress.
By dancing to Netanyahu's tune he has put the whole world in danger and Iran will make sure now that they have a nuclear weapon.

Absolute applause for your take, AGAA4! This is exactly what I was trying to say in a post on this thread.

I could not have put it any clearer. All f-a-c-t-s point to this. Not opinions, thoughts or hopes, just facts. trump completely avoided Congress' approval.

And you better believe Iran will be madly working away to build a bigger and better machine. The attacks have already begun. Next to be struck, the Gulf of Hormuz. Oil folks.

Fill your cars up like we are all doing.

Grandmabatty

It appears that Keir Starmer is verbally backing Trump. That doesn't augur well

Next he'll be wearing a flying jacket and walking with his fingertips in his jeans front pockets while he follows Trump around the Whitehouse gardens a la Blair and Bush during the Iraq "weapons of mass destruction" subterfuge.

I predict he won't.

IMO, it’s all due to power mad, power hungry, dictators, Trump, Netanyahu, Putin - all crazy leaders, wanting more and more power, all taunting each other and playing some insane game which will have knock on effects on us all.

All getting on in years and trying to make their mark in the world and ensure their place in history before they depart this earth.
Never mind the rest of us.

Cabowich

How, exactly, is Iran able to retaliate? Why is the situation so worrying? I don't quite get it.

If Trump has incapacitated any nuclear weapons the Iranians might have had, what have they got left? Some missiles which might not have the ability to reach America?

Please somebody explain why the situation is so dangerous.

There are more ways to wage a war. The control of shipping routes, digital targeting, nobody being safe wherever there are USA facilities, targeting airplanes, etc. It is also provocative when big guns like Russia and China aren't onside. It is only going to take one wrong action and WW3 will erupt. It will also be just another generation who will be anti the West and ready to do damage wherever they can. At the moment, who can blame them?

Reuters - Unusual activity was seen by satellite around the Fordo site on Thursday and Friday. Lorries were lined up around the site which could mean the uranium was moved as the Iranians said.
A scientist has said even if the US have blown up the bomb it will only put the Iranian schedule back by a few years.
I don't think this will have been the success that Trump thinks he has had.

I know this sounds really dense but why shouldn’t Iran have nuclear weapons? There’s no reason to think that Israel would be bombed is there? The rest of the world would come down like a ton of bricks on Iran in that situation. It’s called a deterrent? Forgive my stupidity….

I think it is Trump himself who is aiming for the Nobel Peace Prize, Read the "tweet" he posted overnight.

ronib

I know this sounds really dense but why shouldn’t Iran have nuclear weapons? There’s no reason to think that Israel would be bombed is there? The rest of the world would come down like a ton of bricks on Iran in that situation. It’s called a deterrent? Forgive my stupidity….

ronib, it is not stipidity, it's lack of understanding. Iran is run by Shia Muslims. They believe that when they have destroyed Isreal, not only have they done Gods will, but that it will also bring about the day of judgement when all infidels will come under Gods judgement. So what incentive do they have for peace?

There’s a clock in Tehran that ticks down to the time of the destruction of Israel, it was just caught by a missile blast.
They’ll have to make another one🤔
Am hoping as a lot of Iranians are for a regime change, but the bombing of all their nuclear sites will do for now.
For those posters saying ‘they’ll go flat out now for full nuclear capabilities’ alert….that’s exactly what they were doing before they were stopped.

Cossy

Boz

Iran has been "cruising for a bruising" for a long time and by a lot of people: a thorn in the side of Israel for a long time.
Trump has gone up in my approval, or learning the job better. Decisive action was need to thwart Iran's support for terrorist .groups.

Good grief, analyse what you’re stating!

Well said Boz 😃
And ignore the angry calls for analysis (I often wonder if posters think they’re in a debating contest.)

ronib

I know this sounds really dense but why shouldn’t Iran have nuclear weapons? There’s no reason to think that Israel would be bombed is there? The rest of the world would come down like a ton of bricks on Iran in that situation. It’s called a deterrent? Forgive my stupidity….

It's not stupidity ronib, it's years of being subjected to the West's view of the world. That psychological tool, "us and them / create a common 'enemy'" to bolster your own support. The west ignores who is actually breaking international law (!) and justifying it when we do!

This is almost exactly the same scenario as W Bush and Iraq in 2003. Then it was over oil under the excuse that they were close to a nuclear bomb / Bin Laden, 45 minutes from striking the UK according to Blair and Bush, etc, etc,
That was based on accuarate info wasn't it?

Hmm, very recently Iran announced they had found a lot of a fairly rare metal; Antimony used in computer chips and batteries.
For a Western, not western blinkered view, have a look at interviews on You Tube with American, Noam Chomsky (e.g. 14 years ago, his talk to UCL). His views are thoughtful, consistant and insightful.