Rachel reeves

I don’t like the Speaker.

I watched PMQ’s .
I didn’t see the two tears until looking at close up footage on BBC online news.
I thought she looked miserable is all.
Starmer didn’t know, neither did Rayner or the person sitting on RR’s left as they couldn’t see her face.

So many mind readers here, know what she was thinking, know what her colleagues were thinking

The fact is that nobody on GN knows why she was upset. Reasons given are speculation.

MayBee70

I don’t like the Speaker.

No?
Why not?
It isn’t the easiest job but he seems to do it ok without being too heavy handed.

growstuff

The fact is that nobody on GN knows why she was upset. Reasons given are speculation.

They are, but reasoned speculation I think.

Oreo

growstuff

The fact is that nobody on GN knows why she was upset. Reasons given are speculation.

They are, but reasoned speculation I think.

😄😄

Do you think Kemi will apologise? She surely should.
Keir has apologised. He said he hadn't noticed she was weeping. I get that because you don't see someone beside you.

Oreo

MayBee70

I don’t like the Speaker.

No?
Why not?
It isn’t the easiest job but he seems to do it ok without being too heavy handed.

He often comes down heavy on people for no reason but ignores what is imo bad behaviour. He was once downright horrible to Caroline Lucas and I complained to the Speakers Office about it. Since then I’ve noticed him do it several times.

Not very reasoned speculation. Impossible to know what Reeves was upset about. A personal matter? Having just had a row with the speaker? Who knows?

Bring back John (should have got a Peerage) Bercow.

Oreo

kittylester

I believe that the labour party advisers were at fault for allowing Rachel Reeves to be there.

Why? They didn’t know anything.Keir Starmer didn’t know anything, Angela Rayner didn’t know anything.

Exactly. Rachel Reeves, like all others in their workplace is responsible for deciding if they’re fit for work. No diubt, RR decided though upset about something, she could box it off till end of play. I once did this when delivering difficult training with a colleague. Tough personal stuff and need to turn round half way to the venue ‘flooding’). Fortunately I knew I needed an hour to reset myself. Even better, was working alongside a good male colleague who stepped in, delivered my session and I recovered to finish that day/ week
That might have been much more difficult if I’d been an MP at pmqs

Whitewavemark2

Oreo

growstuff

The fact is that nobody on GN knows why she was upset. Reasons given are speculation.

They are, but reasoned speculation I think.

😄😄

Reasoned….the fact that she has had a terrible year with constant flak about her policies all leading up to this week with a likely back bench rebellion which could have led to a vote of no confidence in Starmer.She put all her eggs in this welfare bill basket which were then broken on the floor, not only would it now make any savings but likely to cost money.Told twice by the Speaker to keep answers short the day before, lack of sleep
( bags under the bags) and much mocking by the other side about the bill.Then, finally Starmer not saying that ‘yes, she will be here for the next election’ in answer to Badenoch
Seems like reasoned speculation to me.

Whitewavemark2

Oreo

growstuff

The fact is that nobody on GN knows why she was upset. Reasons given are speculation.

They are, but reasoned speculation I think.

😄😄

I've heard she was upset because her pet stick insect had just died.

MayBee70

Oreo

MayBee70

I don’t like the Speaker.

No?
Why not?
It isn’t the easiest job but he seems to do it ok without being too heavy handed.

He often comes down heavy on people for no reason but ignores what is imo bad behaviour. He was once downright horrible to Caroline Lucas and I complained to the Speakers Office about it. Since then I’ve noticed him do it several times.

Ok 😃

Shall I point out that my speculation ( along with most political pundits) is more reasoned than your stick insect or any other speculation? Yes I think I shall.🤔

We will therefore henceforth accept you as the Oracle Oreo.

Ooo ta!
Tho all political pundits and chat around the episode seem to point to the same thing.

Casdon

We will therefore henceforth accept you as the Oracle Oreo.

😄😄

Will that be alright with you tho Whitewavemark2 as I believe it was your previous job?😂

On a woman to woman level I felt sorry for her yesterday but as Chancellor it was dangerous. She may come out of this ok but only if she starts making some better decisions economically.

Oreo

On a woman to woman level I felt sorry for her yesterday but as Chancellor it was dangerous. She may come out of this ok but only if she starts making some better decisions economically.

The markets don’t agree with you.

So I am assuming that you think that Reeves fiscal policy is incorrect?

I think that just about everything she has done since taking this role has been wrong ending up in this welfare bill debacle.
Going after the disadvantaged in society, scrabbling around for money yet going after the easy pickings instead of the very wealthy.
Taxes going up across the board from the Autumn would have been better, it could have been said that tho they didn’t want to raise taxes, the Ukraine war and other factors make it necessary.
Putting up NI for employers hasn’t helped businesses or people looking for jobs.
In this first year I can’t think of a worst Chancellor.

Grammaretto

Do you think Kemi will apologise? She surely should.
Keir has apologised. He said he hadn't noticed she was weeping. I get that because you don't see someone beside you.

Did he sidle in to his seat, feet going side- together, side-together so he didn’t see anyone behind or next to him? I know that’s how you get to your seat along a pew at church, but he was on the front row, so normal walking would be possible.

I’m trying to picture KS walking to his seat and not seeing anyone in his party.

He didn't see her crying. Mollygo That's all I'm saying. He said he didn't and I believe him.
She wiped away a couple of tears but she wasn't bawling or shaking with sobs.