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Ellie Anne Thu 03-Jul-25 14:59:14

I have no idea why Rachel Reeves was so upset in the commons. Whether it was personal issues or work related is not my business.
But I was disgusted that kemi badenoch used her distress to score political points.

Mollygo Thu 03-Jul-25 20:20:22

He didn’t notice how upset she looked? That says a lot about his perception.

rafichagran Thu 03-Jul-25 20:22:24

"But I was disgusted that kemi badenoch used her distress to score political points"
Me too, very nasty when someone is so upset and distressed.

Casdon Thu 03-Jul-25 20:30:11

Mollygo

He didn’t notice how upset she looked? That says a lot about his perception.

He didn’t say he didn’t know how distressed she was before they went into the chamber did he? Perhaps she should not have gone in, but if she wanted to, it’s quite feasible that once OMQ started he didn’t look at her, being focussed on what was happening. That is just as likely as the scenario you paint, which seems determined to blame him.

Labradora Thu 03-Jul-25 20:44:53

I have seen only the clip of PMQs that showed RR's tearful face. rather than the whole PMQs.
Isn't the problem that the British Chancellor of the Exchequer is crying in Parliament for the whole world including the Money Markets to see ?
Obviously on a personal level I have huge sympathy for Ms Reeves . I was and remain thrilled to have a competent chancellor who is a woman.
The fact is that her demeanour affects the markets and although they were glad on this occasion that she wasn't being ditched for a leftie, they may be less impressed if they think that she's not up to the pressure of the job.
This needs to be a one-off , I think.
I 've only heard about Badenoch's behaviour. She'd have done herself more good by showing compassion. We all know she's tough. The tough can also be merciful.

butterandjam Thu 03-Jul-25 20:49:21

Samsara1

I agree with Crosstitchfan Ms Badenoch's behaviour was not in th best traditions of the house and in plain language yes she was a 'total b***).
I have been in a position in a very important meeting where I was totally overwhelmed its a horrible place to be. I'm glad to see Rachel back on form today and I hope her issue is resolved.

Badenoch showed the country who she is. :-((((

Labradora Thu 03-Jul-25 20:51:03

I daresay that the Party Whips have reduced many a male MP to tears but that would be in private.

Ilovecheese Thu 03-Jul-25 20:52:22

You have to hand it to Kemi Badenoch though, she has managed to make people feel sympathy for a woman that wanted to take money away from disabled people .

Allira Thu 03-Jul-25 21:09:54

Ilovecheese

You have to hand it to Kemi Badenoch though, she has managed to make people feel sympathy for a woman that wanted to take money away from disabled people .

😁

Aveline Thu 03-Jul-25 21:38:10

Kemi Badenoch is single handedly losing votes for Conservatives. They need to get rid of her.

Mollygo Thu 03-Jul-25 21:45:12

Ilovecheese

You have to hand it to Kemi Badenoch though, she has managed to make people feel sympathy for a woman that wanted to take money away from disabled people .

That takes some doing. Perhaps another part of KS’s cunning plan?

Mt61 Fri 04-Jul-25 00:33:11

GrannyGravy13

I am not a fan of Angela Rayner, I would have had more respect for her if she had acknowledged RR’s distress. The same goes for the PM, I do not buy into the excuses that they didn’t notice/know

All it would have taken was a hand on her arm, like the hand on RR’s shoulder from the MP immediately behind her.

I was watching AR she looked like she had a smirk on her face.
I heard RR had words with the speaker of the house. That’s why she was so upset.

Mt61 Fri 04-Jul-25 00:34:34

Whitewavemark2

I give Badenoch 2 years at the most. Mind you who on earth will replace her. They are all a bit grim.

Give RR less than that.

Calendargirl Fri 04-Jul-25 07:16:02

Mt61

Whitewavemark2

I give Badenoch 2 years at the most. Mind you who on earth will replace her. They are all a bit grim.

Give RR less than that.

Yes, once any PM speaks about having ‘full confidence’ in someone or other, it’s usually the kiss of death.

BlueBelle Fri 04-Jul-25 07:36:39

Ohh here we go again Poor Angela Rayner when will people stop having a pop at her for everything If the sky fell in it would be her fault

Feel sorry for RachelReeves it’s no fun to feel emotional in pubic whatever the cause and none of our blooming business whether she’s a saint or a sinner in her own life
We can like or dislike her views and actions but just leave her private emotions private in my opinion

Mt61 Fri 04-Jul-25 08:30:53

Oreo

I think that just about everything she has done since taking this role has been wrong ending up in this welfare bill debacle.
Going after the disadvantaged in society, scrabbling around for money yet going after the easy pickings instead of the very wealthy.
Taxes going up across the board from the Autumn would have been better, it could have been said that tho they didn’t want to raise taxes, the Ukraine war and other factors make it necessary.
Putting up NI for employers hasn’t helped businesses or people looking for jobs.
In this first year I can’t think of a worst Chancellor.

I have no sympathy for her, tbh. She’s in a top job but well out of her depth. The country relies on her to be strong.
That image of her crying will have gone all round the world.

Wyllow3 Fri 04-Jul-25 08:34:42

Ellie Anne

I have no idea why Rachel Reeves was so upset in the commons. Whether it was personal issues or work related is not my business.
But I was disgusted that kemi badenoch used her distress to score political points.

I so totally agree Ellie Anne For goodness sake, can't politicians be allowed to be human beings? It was spiteful point scoring, whatever we think of RR's politics.

eazybee Fri 04-Jul-25 08:55:19

I repeat, Kemi Badenoch was not the person responsible for Reeves attack of weeping.
Find the person or persons responsible and attack them.

LovesBach Fri 04-Jul-25 09:03:11

Not impressed with a reporter on Radio 4; he suggested that RR would be 'hounded relentlessly' until she revealed what upset her. What is wrong with these people? A prurient interest in someone else's distress - just not normal.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 04-Jul-25 09:11:35

eazybee

I repeat, Kemi Badenoch was not the person responsible for Reeves attack of weeping.
Find the person or persons responsible and attack them.

Duh - we know that. Badenoch was simply kicking someone when they were down - that is the point under discussion.

Oreo Fri 04-Jul-25 10:08:47

LovesBach

Not impressed with a reporter on Radio 4; he suggested that RR would be 'hounded relentlessly' until she revealed what upset her. What is wrong with these people? A prurient interest in someone else's distress - just not normal.

She has already admitted it was a tough day at work but the mistake the LP made was saying it was a personal issue ( happy the next day, even grinning) so clearly wasn’t.
She can’t be seen to be not handling her job so fibs were told.
Politics eh?

Cossy Fri 04-Jul-25 10:20:20

Whitewavemark2

Kicking someone when they are clearly in distress is not the same as political point scoring.

Badenoch is one of the worst performers in parliament in a long time.

I completely agree, it was reprehensible and this is a woman who wants to be PM, no thanks.

Starmer claims he was too focused on questions and the opposition to notice RR being so upset, I don’t know but I doubt he would have ignored it.

Anniebach Fri 04-Jul-25 10:20:28

Why can it not be possible to have a bad day at work and
a personal issue ?

Cossy Fri 04-Jul-25 10:21:46

eazybee

I repeat, Kemi Badenoch was not the person responsible for Reeves attack of weeping.
Find the person or persons responsible and attack them.

No she clearly wasn’t, but to publicly draw attention to her in that manner was, imo, a complete disgrace! She’s not a fit leader!

Cossy Fri 04-Jul-25 10:22:28

Anniebach

Why can it not be possible to have a bad day at work and
a personal issue ?

Well I’d say it certainly is possible, maybe the combination of both led to her not coping well.

Iam64 Fri 04-Jul-25 10:41:39

I think it’s entirely possible to be reduced to tears one day, then smile after a nights sleep and reflection. It doesn’t mean anyone is fibbing