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Shadow Cabinet Reshuffle

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Casdon Tue 22-Jul-25 10:12:12

The good news this morning is that Kemi Badenoch is shortly to announce a shadow cabinet reshuffle. It’s expected that James Cleverly will return to the front bench, and possibly some other prominent former ministers. I hope this is a sign that they are moving forward and can form the credible opposition we need, not just to challenge the government but to help put some of the Reform pie in the sky politicking to bed. Fingers crossed.

Galaxy Thu 24-Jul-25 15:27:24

I don't think they are wrong as such, I think left and right aren't really the right words anymore. I think it is more class based than that. And as I say newspapers aren't driving the narrative these days. If people really wanted a left viewpoint ( and my left would be very different to someone elses left) they would be investing heavily in podcasts etc.

M0nica Thu 24-Jul-25 16:03:06

LizzieDrip

Iam64

We have the best government we have had in many years

Totally agree Iam64 👏👏👏

which just shows how terrible the previous ones were.

MaizieD Thu 24-Jul-25 16:21:44

The term 'media' covers a great deal more than newspapers, Galaxy.

Galaxy Thu 24-Jul-25 16:23:10

Yeah thanks for that, the right certainly understood that much earlier than the left.

Oreo Thu 24-Jul-25 16:43:29

😁

Dorisdodar Thu 24-Jul-25 16:50:20

Madeleine45....I think you are being very rude to call people stupid or pathetic who vote for NF or Reform...

sundowngirl Thu 24-Jul-25 17:05:53

Madeleine45 what an extremely rude arrogant and opinionated person you seem to be. Calling people pathetic because they don’t have the same opinion as you about Reform.
Your last paragraph about politicians who fail to keep the promises they made before they were in government just about sums up Keir Starmer.

growstuff Thu 24-Jul-25 17:10:19

Does anybody have any views on the Conservative reshuffle?

Galaxy Thu 24-Jul-25 18:59:27

I think at the moment it is largely irrelevant. I think it is going to be a long road before they become relevant again, don't know if Cleverly is the person to change that. He doesn't appeal to me but that doesn't mean much.

Casdon Thu 24-Jul-25 19:06:29

As business is still backing the Conservative Party, not Reform, and the rules around overseas donations to political parties are changing, I dare say the Tories will be back sooner than some of us predict.

growstuff Thu 24-Jul-25 19:17:07

Badenoch is a disaster for the Conservative party. Thank goodness she stands virtually no chance of ever being Prime Minister, so won't be a disaster for the country. She hasn't a clue about the issues which really concern people and hasn't any idea about economics.

I must admit I can't see anybody in the party with leadership potential, who could rebuild a viable party with coherent aims. There's a gaping hole to be filled for the centre-right. Nevertheless, the Conservatives do have an amazing instinct for survival. Maybe Cleverly has more people behind him than we think - who knows?

Oreo Thu 24-Jul-25 22:29:00

Badenoch may surprise people by still being in the job in four years time.The one thing you can’t do in politics is predict anything with accuracy.

Allira Thu 24-Jul-25 22:44:38

Oreo

Badenoch may surprise people by still being in the job in four years time.The one thing you can’t do in politics is predict anything with accuracy.

Which means the Tories won't win the next election.

#MysticMeg

growstuff Thu 24-Jul-25 22:58:44

Allira

Oreo

Badenoch may surprise people by still being in the job in four years time.The one thing you can’t do in politics is predict anything with accuracy.

Which means the Tories won't win the next election.

#^MysticMeg^

No, they won't. Badenoch really doesn't have what it takes and doesn't seem to have a good team of advisers - or maybe she doesn't listen to them. If I were a Conservative, the problem would be that I don't know who they've got who could do the job. Jenrick is doing all the right things to be leader, but I doubt very much if he has election-winning potential. Cleverly is possibly one of the best of a very bad bunch, but he's not exactly inspirational. He might stand a chance if the country had had 14 years of a Labour government and just wanted a change, but he's not going to have that advantage.

ronib Thu 24-Jul-25 23:03:26

I can accurately predict that if there’s a catastrophic result for the Conservatives in 2029, Badenoch will be replaced.

Iam64 Fri 25-Jul-25 07:49:44

I’ll be surprised if Badenoch leads them into the next election

David49 Fri 25-Jul-25 08:30:55

Iam64

I’ll be surprised if Badenoch leads them into the next election

Maybe she will, maybe not, too early to tell, my prediction is there will be a lot of Tory voters change to Reform if Badenoch leads them.

Doodledog Fri 25-Jul-25 10:44:40

Reform is riding high now, but there is a lot of time before the GE. Discontented voters might realise that Reform have no clear vision or policies when they start to be questioned more closely, and there are new parties coming along that might soak up their votes. Corbyn's is one, and there is also Majority, which is an alliance of independents sharing an umbrella. There may well be more before the GE, and by then we'll have a better idea of how Starmer has done, too.