Israel/Gaza War - Hundreds of Israeli ex-officials appeal to Trump to help end Gaza war

I find it easier to believe what visiting members of the medical profession say about conditions in Gaza than spokesmen representing the Israeli government say. I'd be more inclined to believe the Israeli government if they allowed independent journalists into Gaza to report what they see but of course, they don't. To those who say, the people they see queuing for food don't look starving, well why would anyone send the most vulnerable people out to walk miles and queue in the heat for hours? When you see skeletal men queuing for food most of the old, the young and the sick will have already died!

Whitewavemark2

Denying malnutrition on a massive scale together with starvation in Gaza is misinformation which encourages people to turn their back on the suffering, and gives Israel the freedom to inflict even more evil onto men women and children, whose only crime is to live in Gaza. That in my opinion is a crime almost as bad as the act itself.

MSF, Save the Children and Oxfam are amongst the hundreds of aid agencies who have warned of the severity of the suffering in Gaza.

There will be a whole generation who will be both physically and cognitively affected for the next 60+ years.

I cannot believe we are seeing this happen.
And there is nothing being done to stop it.
What a damming episode in history this will be.

foxie48

I find it easier to believe what visiting members of the medical profession say about conditions in Gaza than spokesmen representing the Israeli government say. I'd be more inclined to believe the Israeli government if they allowed independent journalists into Gaza to report what they see but of course, they don't. To those who say, the people they see queuing for food don't look starving, well why would anyone send the most vulnerable people out to walk miles and queue in the heat for hours? When you see skeletal men queuing for food most of the old, the young and the sick will have already died!

Look at any street scene, not any queues for aid.

It won’t be long now before it’s at an end but it sadly was necessary to eliminate hamas as any kind of force in Gaza after what they did.It’s entirely of their making.

Oreo

foxie48

I find it easier to believe what visiting members of the medical profession say about conditions in Gaza than spokesmen representing the Israeli government say. I'd be more inclined to believe the Israeli government if they allowed independent journalists into Gaza to report what they see but of course, they don't. To those who say, the people they see queuing for food don't look starving, well why would anyone send the most vulnerable people out to walk miles and queue in the heat for hours? When you see skeletal men queuing for food most of the old, the young and the sick will have already died!

Look at any street scene, not any queues for aid.

You are completely wrong on this. You are seeing only what you want to see.

I listened to James Elder. I suggest you do the same.

Nobody in the world will stop it as they know it needed to be done, that’s the truth of the matter.

The ideology will never die. Until Israel in good faith come to peace and support a Palestinian state, they will never be free of violence.

Extremist Islamist ideology may never die unfortunately as we know to our cost here in the UK and in many other countries around the world.All any country can do is to be vigilant and Israel will now be hyper vigilant.

Oreo

Nobody in the world will stop it as they know it needed to be done, that’s the truth of the matter.

No. Most agree it is disproportionate and no longer defence but a deliberate clearing of all Palestinians from Gaza
The only way it could have been stopped was for troops from other countries to go in to Gaza and the result would be catastrophic.
I believe other countries are reluctant to call this genocide because then they have the right to go in to Gaza under international law on a rescue mission and would cause even more problems.

So the logic of that of course is that they will never defeat Hamas or its beliefs.

Neither will we here in the UK or in any other country, these extremists have tunnel vision, apt for Gaza.
Doesn’t matter how good life is in any country these nutters are driven by ideology and hate.

From your perspective don’t forget. Others of the Muslim faith have a different perspective regarding the right of Palestinians to their land and unfortunately for Israel, the support from so many they had until recently is draining away very rabidly indeed

Frankly going forward it is a disaster for the ordinary Israeli imo.

5 countries declared war on Israel, 1948

International definition of famine

1. One in 5 households in a certain area face extreme food shortages.

2. More than 30% of the population in a given area is acutely mal nourished

3. At least 2 out of every 10,000 dying from starvation each day.

So not everyone needs to be stick thin, it’s a percentage of the population who have been affected. Hence those who are able are the ones who go out looking for what is laughably called, food.

By the time a famine is called it’s already too late.

Anniebach

5 countries declared war on Israel, 1948

But many Arab countries have kept their peace with Israel thanks to US assurances of their security in the region, uneasy allies, but the bombing of Qatar and the lack of assurances from Trump that a ceasefire will be pursued in a Gaza, has led to shifting allegiances which will make Israel far less safe thanks to Netanyahu’s actions.

at is the UN changed famine Definition?
Classifying famine means that the most extreme category is triggered when three critical thresholds – extreme food deprivation, acute malnutrition and starvation-related deaths – have been breached. The latest analysis now affirms on the basis of reasonable evidence that these criteria have been met, UN agencies said.22 Aug 2025

Seems UN changed their definition of famine 22August 2025

Excerpts from an article in today's online The Guardian,

'Israel has replaced Iran as the biggest threat to security to the Gulf States'

'Gulf rulers are pressing ahead with the pursuit of greater strategic autonomy...to hedge against the risks of depending on the US'

'Israel's unchecked campaigns in Gaza, escalating opentions in the West Bank...have reframed the conversation.'

Yes, they’ll be worried Maremia but the antidote will be to not harbour hamas operatives in their cities.
Qatar has done itself no favours by allowing them to live in luxury there.

Now this is new. A report in the BBC online says that,

'US joins UN Security Council condemnation of Israeli strikes on Qatar.'

This is unusual, as the US would in the past have voted against or abstained from the vote.

Maremia

Now this is new. A report in the BBC online says that,

'US joins UN Security Council condemnation of Israeli strikes on Qatar.'

This is unusual, as the US would in the past have voted against or abstained from the vote.

This is unusual but right as the US has a large base in Qatar with a thousand personnel.
They have to defend their own people and condemn Israel for the attack. Trump said at the time that he was very unhappy about the attack.

As AGAA4 says, the US has to say that. What Trump says publicly of course isn’t always the sane as what he thinks privately.I can’t believe that Israel didn’t tell him before the missile strike on the hamas building.

Trump is too taken up with domestic issues to be terribly effective, (trump is consumed by Epstein) he simply hasn’t got his eyes on any international ball.

That is why both Putin and Netanyahu are getting away with what they are doing.

Word is that Israel did advise of the illegal bombing of Qatar but more or less as it was about to happen (they had to because of American presence in Qatar). Likewise Qatar. Neither had any time to take action.

Oreo

As AGAA4 says, the US has to say that. What Trump says publicly of course isn’t always the sane as what he thinks privately.I can’t believe that Israel didn’t tell him before the missile strike on the hamas building.

Israel informed the US military about the impending attack who then told the Pentagon. It was then passed on to Trump. The attack was already underway by the time the US got the news Oreo

Should have said by the time Trump had the news.

For music fans, did anyone else hear the conductor Ilan Volok's impromtu speach condemning the actions of Israel?