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If you want to understand the techniques Farage uses ...

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PoliticsNerd Wed 06-Aug-25 13:35:54

...you might be interested in this visual "long read".

www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPqwiwQ68Lw

It would be great if those who watch it give their view. Obviously those who don't want to watch already have plenty of threads running. Many thanks.

MayBee70 Fri 08-Aug-25 16:04:01

MaizieD

Thanks, Wwmk2 😆

We're quits. You can't do links from you Ipad, I can't do pictures😆

I’ve only just learned how to text people…blush

Teazel2 Fri 08-Aug-25 16:06:50

PoliticsNerd

Of course everyone you speak to thinks as you do. We all tend to associate with people like ourselves, Teasle2. It up to us, not others, to work out why we chose to believe what we believe and whether it's the right thing to do.

Let me ask you a question. We all know how Hitler turned the Jews into the "enemy of the state". Do you now, after decades of learning about the history of that terrible period in Europe, believe that all or anything that was said about the Jews to make them the enemy of the state was true?. Did they actually deserve what was basically retribution for the very difficult problems Germany faced. Did focusing on them solve those problems as easily and simply as promised - or at all? Did the people of Germany feel vindicated at the end of it all?

I fail to understand the link you are making here. However, of course I feel deeply for the suffering of the Jews, they deserve a land to call their own after their suffering. Just for the record my in laws were German, they didnt have any say whatsoever in what happened politically during the war years, so to ask if they felt vindicated is not applicable to the vast majority of the population, just to those involved in the treatment of the Jews.

The vast majority of the UK are similarly not allowed to have any say in the invasion of the UK except at the ballot box when hopefully Labour will be kicked out.

MaizieD Fri 08-Aug-25 17:06:00

I fail to understand the link you are making here.

The link that PN was making was between the demonisation of Jews by Hitler over the 1930s and the demonisation of immigrants/asylum seekers that Farage is promoting and encouraging.

Teazel2 Fri 08-Aug-25 17:13:39

MaizieD

^I fail to understand the link you are making here.^

The link that PN was making was between the demonisation of Jews by Hitler over the 1930s and the demonisation of immigrants/asylum seekers that Farage is promoting and encouraging.

Are you equating Nige to Hitler?

MaizieD Fri 08-Aug-25 17:17:30

Teazel2

MaizieD

I fail to understand the link you are making here.

The link that PN was making was between the demonisation of Jews by Hitler over the 1930s and the demonisation of immigrants/asylum seekers that Farage is promoting and encouraging.

Are you equating Nige to Hitler?

No. Just saying he is using the same rhetorical technique.

Casdon Fri 08-Aug-25 17:20:12

Teazel2

MaizieD

I fail to understand the link you are making here.

The link that PN was making was between the demonisation of Jews by Hitler over the 1930s and the demonisation of immigrants/asylum seekers that Farage is promoting and encouraging.

Are you equating Nige to Hitler?

Farage to Hitler
Nigel to Adolph
Nige to Dolphi?

Why do you call Farage Nige, is he your son?

Teazel2 Fri 08-Aug-25 17:30:27

MaizieD

Teazel2

MaizieD

I fail to understand the link you are making here.

The link that PN was making was between the demonisation of Jews by Hitler over the 1930s and the demonisation of immigrants/asylum seekers that Farage is promoting and encouraging.

Are you equating Nige to Hitler?

No. Just saying he is using the same rhetorical technique.

You are obviously not worried he will sue you 🤣🤣

Teazel2 Fri 08-Aug-25 17:31:32

Casdon

Teazel2

MaizieD

I fail to understand the link you are making here.

The link that PN was making was between the demonisation of Jews by Hitler over the 1930s and the demonisation of immigrants/asylum seekers that Farage is promoting and encouraging.

Are you equating Nige to Hitler?

Farage to Hitler
Nigel to Adolph
Nige to Dolphi?

Why do you call Farage Nige, is he your son?

Does he need to be my son? Its an affectionate way of describing him, like I would say BoJo to describe another one of my heroes.

PoliticsNerd Fri 08-Aug-25 17:58:31

MayBee70

MaizieD

Thanks, Wwmk2 😆

We're quits. You can't do links from you Ipad, I can't do pictures😆

I’ve only just learned how to text people…blush

One of my favourite sayings MayBee is "Celebrate the small wins" smile I'll raise a glass (cup?) to yours.

MayBee70 Fri 08-Aug-25 18:00:04

“Does he need to be my son? Its an affectionate way of describing him, like I would say BoJo to describe another one of my heroes”
…that says it all really…( as if ‘Nige’or ‘Boris’ give a flying flamingo about any of us…)

Casdon Fri 08-Aug-25 18:29:38

Teazel2

Casdon

Teazel2

MaizieD

I fail to understand the link you are making here.

The link that PN was making was between the demonisation of Jews by Hitler over the 1930s and the demonisation of immigrants/asylum seekers that Farage is promoting and encouraging.

Are you equating Nige to Hitler?

Farage to Hitler
Nigel to Adolph
Nige to Dolphi?

Why do you call Farage Nige, is he your son?

Does he need to be my son? Its an affectionate way of describing him, like I would say BoJo to describe another one of my heroes.

Possibly without realising it, you have bought into the mate myth. I can honestly say I’ve never felt affectionate towards any politician..

MaizieD Fri 08-Aug-25 18:30:33

Teazel2

MaizieD

Teazel2

MaizieD

I fail to understand the link you are making here.

The link that PN was making was between the demonisation of Jews by Hitler over the 1930s and the demonisation of immigrants/asylum seekers that Farage is promoting and encouraging.

Are you equating Nige to Hitler?

No. Just saying he is using the same rhetorical technique.

You are obviously not worried he will sue you 🤣🤣

What on earth would he sue me for?

Oreo Fri 08-Aug-25 18:34:54

MayBee70

“Does he need to be my son? Its an affectionate way of describing him, like I would say BoJo to describe another one of my heroes”
…that says it all really…( as if ‘Nige’or ‘Boris’ give a flying flamingo about any of us…)

Says it all?
We all like different people/politicians don’t we, so that’s all it says.

Oreo Fri 08-Aug-25 18:35:59

It was a joke MaizieD 😁

MayBee70 Fri 08-Aug-25 19:17:44

Oreo

It was a joke MaizieD 😁

There’s nothing funny about Farage and his cohorts.

MaizieD Fri 08-Aug-25 19:31:13

Oreo

It was a joke MaizieD 😁

What was a joke, Oreo?

Do you read Teazel's mind?

PoliticsNerd Fri 08-Aug-25 19:53:32

Teazel2

MaizieD

I fail to understand the link you are making here.

The link that PN was making was between the demonisation of Jews by Hitler over the 1930s and the demonisation of immigrants/asylum seekers that Farage is promoting and encouraging.

Are you equating Nige to Hitler?

That really isn't the point. Farage is Farage. However, as Maya Angelou said, "when someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time". So we should take note when people work from the same playbook. There is a good chance they want the same things.

PoliticsNerd Fri 08-Aug-25 20:18:45

... they didnt have any say whatsoever in what happened politically during the war years

There was always the possibility of stopping his rise to power. And many people did try to fight his rhetoric and later his methods. Many paid with their lives. Would I do it? I would probably keep myself to myself so as not to endanger my family. But while I can I will speak out Teazel12, and that includes speaking out against the blind support of extremists.

Teazel2 Fri 08-Aug-25 20:20:15

MaizieD

Teazel2

MaizieD

Teazel2

MaizieD

I fail to understand the link you are making here.

The link that PN was making was between the demonisation of Jews by Hitler over the 1930s and the demonisation of immigrants/asylum seekers that Farage is promoting and encouraging.

Are you equating Nige to Hitler?

No. Just saying he is using the same rhetorical technique.

You are obviously not worried he will sue you 🤣🤣

What on earth would he sue me for?

Wasnt he threatening someone who compared him to Hitler? Thought I read it somewhere.

Teazel2 Fri 08-Aug-25 20:24:51

MaizieD

Teazel2

MaizieD

Teazel2

MaizieD

I fail to understand the link you are making here.

The link that PN was making was between the demonisation of Jews by Hitler over the 1930s and the demonisation of immigrants/asylum seekers that Farage is promoting and encouraging.

Are you equating Nige to Hitler?

No. Just saying he is using the same rhetorical technique.

You are obviously not worried he will sue you 🤣🤣

What on earth would he sue me for?

I thought I had read that he was suing someone for comparing him to Hitler?

Teazel2 Fri 08-Aug-25 20:28:36

Btw just read reform have won another council election.

Teazel2 Fri 08-Aug-25 20:29:29

Easington and Shotton.

Casdon Fri 08-Aug-25 20:42:16

I think you mean that Reform have won seats in a by election Teazel, not a council?

Allira Fri 08-Aug-25 21:11:38

It's County Council by-election.

Casdon Fri 08-Aug-25 21:14:24

Yes, I meant they haven’t won control of a council, they’ve won seats at by election for councils.