"Villagers verbally abuse Scouts they mistook for migrants" (Daily Telegraph)

I expect that’s really got as opposing your the headline of your post

‘Not Scouts, Not villagers . And apparently online abuse not verbal.

What were you saying about people with ‘dense brains” being wound up about what they read?

really got

= right

The police Chief was referring to a video of the incident. I can't see how that opposes the headlines, Lathyrus3.

And if the democratic process which you admire chooses Trump or Reform what then?

It is simply Politics Nerd trying to be clever, or funny, and failing on both counts.

Lathyrus3

But politicsnerd, why are you believing the erroneous headline you have read in the Daily Telegraph?

Are you being wound up?

😁

The Daily Telegraph? That bastion of right-wing extremists?

PoliticsNerd

The police Chief was referring to a video of the incident. I can't see how that opposes the headlines, Lathyrus3.

So a person took a video and spread misinformation.

At least you condemned villagers (although it's not a village) and not The Welsh as a whole on the other thread!

Who said it was misinformation? You seem very keen to push this point without references to stand up your argument Allira. Nothing new there though I suppose.

Allira

PoliticsNerd

The police Chief was referring to a video of the incident. I can't see how that opposes the headlines, Lathyrus3.

So a person took a video and spread misinformation.

At least you condemned villagers (although it's not a village) and not The Welsh as a whole on the other thread!

Would you like to link where I "condemned" the Welsh Allira?

MaizieD

I hope this thread fades into the obscurity it deserves.
Patronising and insulting are words that spring to mind...

So you are now joining the attacks on targeted minorities, MaizieD. When did that happen? It's certainly very unexpected.

Um I’ll say it against

They weren’t scouts
It wasn’t a village
The abuse was online

You really can’t see how that is different from

“Villagers verbally abuse Scouts”

And the winner of densest brain is………

Lathyrus3

Um I’ll say it against

They weren’t scouts
It wasn’t a village
The abuse was online

You really can’t see how that is different from

“Villagers verbally abuse Scouts”

And the winner of densest brain is………

So I will say again... where does your information come from? Sky are still broadcasting what I reported.

As you say it’s all about building up hysteria.-

against a Welsh town apparently
🤔🙄

Gosh could it be a bias😬

Umm you reported two different things

Which one are you selecting?

PoliticsNerd

Temporary Chief Superintendent Jason White said:

"The group featured in the video were visiting from another part of the country to attend a frequently used Scout camp in Newbridge and many of the people in the video are children.

"The site is not used to house anyone on a permanent basis. The site is used by our dog handlers to train our police dogs when not used for visits and our officers are not guarding the location."

This is from Sky news and appears to have been fact-checked. I can't imagine why he would have said this if an incident had not taken place.

Here’s one

And

Villagers verbally abuse Scouts is the other

Take your pick🤣

Thank you Lathyrus

Lathyrus3

As you say it’s all about building up hysteria.-

against a Welsh town apparently
🤔🙄

Gosh could it be a bias😬

So you have no facts to back your recent post saying:

"They weren’t scouts"
"It wasn’t a village"
"The abuse was online"

There was also online abuse, and I will happily come back and say if there weren't scouts being abused by local people who mistook them for immigrants but, yet against, you have no evidence of that.

So which one of your posts are you going with?

They can’t both be true?

Unless there’s a cat 🐈 nvolved🙄

Lathyrus3

As you say it’s all about building up hysteria.-

against a Welsh town apparently
🤔🙄

Gosh could it be a bias😬

The people who did this are being held to account. No one is attacking the Newbridge; I'm sure there are people there who are equally horrified.

You seem to have been left, twisting in the wind Lathyrus3. You cannot change the fact that this sort of situation has been created by the far-right and their followers.

Lathyrus3

And

Villagers verbally abuse Scouts is the other

Take your pick🤣

They weren't scouts, but I think the law takes online abuse seriously - even if it's not face-to-face, it's still damaging. We've seen from Southport (and other places) how online communication can be the catalyst for riots. Thank goodness it didn't get to that stage in this case. To be honest, I'm not even sure that there was any physical gathering.

I'm a bit puzzled about the original report that the locals couldn't understand Scots accents, if they didn't go anywhere near them.

From what I know (and I have checked facts), the group was leaving the camp. They had been living in tents and AFAIK hadn't caused any trouble.

Somebody (or somebodies) produced a video of the group, which included police officers standing outside the camp (although not necessarily when the group was staying). I haven't seen the video, so I don't know what was said in the voice-over, although I can guess, having seen some of the other videos produced by "citizen journalists". However, I did see a couple of comments responding to the video and supporting it - familiar rants about asylum seekers staying at the taxpayers' expense while "indigenous" homeless sleep on the streets and dangers to young girls from undocumented migrants, etc. It doesn't take much to spark off the misinformation - just as it did in Southport.

I haven't seen anybody labelling the population of Newbridge. For all anyone knows, the people responsible for the video don't even come from Newbridge - they're possibly not even Welsh.

All that is known is that somebody put some effort into producing and uploading a video which was intended to provoke a reaction. I have no idea what the outcome will be, but I hope those responsible get some sort of punishment.

Lathyrus3

As you say it’s all about building up hysteria.-

against a Welsh town apparently
🤔🙄

Gosh could it be a bias😬

No! There hasn't been any hysteria about a Welsh town.

Oh I’m only concerned with your two contradictory posts really.

Again. Which one?

Lathyrus3

Oh I’m only concerned with your two contradictory posts really.

Again. Which one?

I assume that's not directed at me. Which contradictions do you have issues with?

growstuff

Lathyrus3

As you say it’s all about building up hysteria.-

against a Welsh town apparently
🤔🙄

Gosh could it be a bias😬

No! There hasn't been any hysteria about a Welsh town.

You don’t think inaccurately posting

“Villagers verbally abuse Scouts they mistook for migrants”

wasn’t intended to stir things up .

It worked for Politicsnerd. Really got them going😬