Man made famine - the world should be ashamed

There has been no overall leader of Hamas since Yahya Sinwar and then his brother Mohammed were killed by the IDF in 2024 and 2025.
Overall organizational leadership of Hamas is currently held by a temporary committee composed of five officials based in Doha.

winterwhite

No one has a monopoly on compassion.

OP, "sitting by" is harsh. What do you think GB can practically do that it isn't doing?

We know that Israel is not entirely resistant to outside pressure. After stopping all food, water medical assistance, it did allow in a trickle as a result of world pressure.

There is so much we (the world) can do.

Anniebach

Quote Babs03 Sat 23-Aug-25 12:35:44
Once Hamas return the hostages Israel will destroy what is left of Gaza. Hamas disarming or withdrawing won’t prevent this.

How do you know this ? If as is repeated here Israel is killing all in Gaza, why not release all hostages and give at least some chance to stop the alleged genocide

I can only base my opinion upon Netanyahus stance so far and the mindset of extremists in the Knesset who have openly stated that Gaza should be flattened and all Palestinians removed.
As for handing hostages back there have been several opportunities along the way to do this, imho if Israel had wanted the hostages home and a peaceful solution this could have been achieved when Qatar held peace talks in the beginning.
Hamas has agreed to release 20 hostages still alive in two groups and despite hyperbolical rhetoric I believe they are so depleted and worn down that they would agree to a peaceful solution.
But we need a damn good mediator, usually the US would step in but Trump just wants to develop Gaza as a second Vegas.

Thank you Babs. Yes we have our opinions.

There was footage a week or so ago when an Israeli woman was asked whether Gaza should be subjected to further heavy bombing. Her answer was no, not until the hostages were released and then they (the Israelis) could "do what they want".

This is not a war, it is a deliberate act of genocide. How can you possibly compare Hamas with the might of the Israeli army - with all its sophisticated weaponry, drones and Iron Dome - not to mention the mealy-mouthed attitude of most countries, many of which are providing even more military and strategic support.

Most reputable humanitarian organisations have condemned what is happening, and British doctors have testified about the indiscriminate bombing and the terrible injuries sustained by children. How can you to otherwise than condemn when there is ample evidence to demonstrate that Palestinians are being starved and terrorised. Many high profile Jewish people, organisations and ordinary Jewish people, are disgusted at what is happening.

We need strong people in our government doing the things that the voters want.

Some try to. However a lot of the people who represent us are out to feather their own greedy nests, and will do whatever they need to in order to further that.

Quote Desdemona Sat 23-Aug-25 14:35:10
We need strong people in our government doing the things that the voters want.

Some try to. However a lot of the people who represent us are out to feather their own greedy nests, and will do whatever they need to in order to further that.

Do what ? so much hysteria now there are some who want Israel bombed.

We don't need to bomb Israel. If Trump told them "hold off, else we won't have your back in future" then that would suffice.

From Caitlin Johnson - “Most Israel apologia at this point is just people pretending to believe things they don’t really believe. Palestinians aren’t really being starved. Gaza looks like a gravel parking lot because Hamas put explosives in all the buildings. The IDF has a low civilian-to-combatant kill ratio. Gaza’s entire healthcare infrastructure was destroyed because Hamas was hiding under all the hospitals. Nobody actually believes these things. They’re just pretending to believe them in order to justify genocidal atrocities and help ensure that they continue.

They’re really the worst people in the world”.

‘Starvation Is Everywhere': Virtual Tours of Gaza Clinics Expose the Scale of the Horror- Haaretz.com

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-08-21/ty-article-magazine/starvation-is-everywhere-virtual-tours-of-gaza-clinics-expose-the-scale-of-the-horror/00000198-ccb7-dcce-a5bf-cdb714fb0000

The Houthis had another missile attack on Israel recently and fortunately the Iron Dome was effective.
Is Israel taking on too much? Effectively fighting Iran for the West?

History repeats itself as some people will justify almost anything.

What does that mean?

ronib

What does that mean?

That was in reply to the previous poster. Sorry.

Famine - The Economist

I thought the Israeli government were clearing North Gaza and so it would be unsurprising if famine wasn’t happening there as part of the relocation process? This is a war after all.

ronib

I thought the Israeli government were clearing North Gaza and so it would be unsurprising if famine wasn’t happening there as part of the relocation process? This is a war after all.

There is a war taking place between Russia and Ukraine would you be so ready to accept starvation as part of that war simply because ‘this is a war after all?’
Starvation is not acceptable as part of any war, there are international laws that draw the line between what constitutes the inevitable and tragic casualties of war and war crimes.

I understand that there’s some food in the south?

ronib

I understand that there’s some food in the south?

How do you understand that?
And if you have read this or seen it somewhere online I hope you understand that just as you dismiss anything online about starvation as propaganda you must expect the same response to anything you may have read that says otherwise.

There are numerous videos showing men usually carrying sacks of food on their heads. Food must be getting through otherwise there would be 2 million dead people by now.

Whitewavemark2

We sit by watching as children starve to death, their mothers’ cannot feed them and their fathers’ unable to provide them with food.

Every single calorie is controlled by one government.

Why are we allowing this situation to continue?

Anyone can say ^ Why are we allowing this situation to continue?^

The real question is How do we stop it? not just in Gaza but also in Somalia

.... otherwise there would be 2 million dead people by now as opposed to 2 million without enough to eat because aid isn't being allowed in.

ronib

There are numerous videos showing men usually carrying sacks of food on their heads. Food must be getting through otherwise there would be 2 million dead people by now.

So that's your target? Get to 2 million dead of starvation and then we accept it's happening and something has to be done.

M0nica

Whitewavemark2

We sit by watching as children starve to death, their mothers’ cannot feed them and their fathers’ unable to provide them with food.

Every single calorie is controlled by one government.

Why are we allowing this situation to continue?

Anyone can say ^ Why are we allowing this situation to continue?^

The real question is How do we stop it? not just in Gaza but also in Somalia

All famine is and always has been abhorrent, and giving aid is all that I and many millions like me can do, as well as make our feelings known.

However, there is a world of difference between famine brought on by natural causes, the economic system, the result of war etc and a famine that is a deliberate act of war and entirely within the remit of a government - members of whom have declared genocide on a group of oppressed people.

The Economist

Binyamin Netanyahu may see a tactical military advantage in squeezing the space available to Palestinians inside Gaza, forcing people to congregate in desolate, crowded and ill-equipped areas in the south of the strip. Some in his government seem to favour using food as a weapon of war. But the long-run cost to Israel’s reputation will be high. Polling data show a surge in negative attitudes towards Israel globally, even before famine arrived. Countries that were once stalwart supporters—such as Germany—are distancing themselves. Crucially, public opinion in America is also turning negative. I can only imagine that process continuing. It may mark a generational change in attitudes towards Israel.

The majority now accept that Netanyahu and his cronies are committing genocide/ethnic cleansing, and now using starvation as a weapon.
Those standing against the tide of popular opinion and the increasing opinion of western governments, have their own reasons for doing so, but are becoming increasingly irrelevant.