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“Migrants are more important than residents" A statement that the Labour party will live to regret?

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 29-Aug-25 16:59:32

I think so.
It was their appeal statement in Court. To overturn the previous decision about housing migrants in that hotel in Epping it was their salvo.

Well I think it’s just put a nail in their coffin.

What do you think?

Maremia Fri 29-Aug-25 19:28:30

How many posters on this thread believe that the best people to protect 'our women and girls' are those bussed-in rent a mob thugs, many of whom have form for domestic violence?

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 29-Aug-25 19:29:04

The Lib Dem’s won 72 seats with 12.2% of the total votes.
Reform UK won 5 seats - with 14.3% of the total votes.

Maybe that explains the reason why the BBC interview Reform UK LLFL? More people actually voted for them - even though parliamentary seats don’t reflect that?

Millie22 Fri 29-Aug-25 19:29:46

I read on Twitter not always reliable that local people are going to organise patrols to protect children near the hotel.

LizzieDrip Fri 29-Aug-25 19:30:30

woodenspoon any update on the numbers of “sex offenders, drug dealers, criminals, members of terrorist groups, economic migrants holed up in taxpayer funded hotels” and of the ‘many’ that have been in court recently?

I’ve googled but can’t find the information about asylum seekers that you clearly have.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 29-Aug-25 19:34:38

They actually said it.
“Keir Starmer's Labour government thinks the rights of illegal immigrants are more important than the rights of local people”.

Casdon Fri 29-Aug-25 19:34:40

FriedGreenTomatoes2

The Lib Dem’s won 72 seats with 12.2% of the total votes.
Reform UK won 5 seats - with 14.3% of the total votes.

Maybe that explains the reason why the BBC interview Reform UK LLFL? More people actually voted for them - even though parliamentary seats don’t reflect that?

No, not really. If you were right, the Tories would be getting double the air time of Reform, and they aren’t.

MayBee70 Fri 29-Aug-25 19:34:57

woodenspoon

MayBee70

It was the Conservative party that started housing migrants in hotels. Labour have said they will stop doing so but it can’t happen overnight. Yet another click bait heading that gransnet are happy to allow.

Hardly a click bait headline if the OP is reporting what was said in open court, surely.

“The need to meet the human rights of asylum seekers by housing them in hotels outweighs safety concerns of local families, the Home Office has told the Court of Appeal”.
It referred to safety concerns, it didn’t say migrants lives are ‘more important’. Imo the words were twisted to give a different more incendiary meaning.

karmalady Fri 29-Aug-25 19:37:40

FGT, I fully agree, their coffin is already well and truly sealed

LizzieDrip Fri 29-Aug-25 19:37:42

FriedGreenTomatoes2

They actually said it.
“Keir Starmer's Labour government thinks the rights of illegal immigrants are more important than the rights of local people”.

Who said it?

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 29-Aug-25 19:43:17

Casdon

FriedGreenTomatoes2

The Lib Dem’s won 72 seats with 12.2% of the total votes.
Reform UK won 5 seats - with 14.3% of the total votes.

Maybe that explains the reason why the BBC interview Reform UK LLFL? More people actually voted for them - even though parliamentary seats don’t reflect that?

No, not really. If you were right, the Tories would be getting double the air time of Reform, and they aren’t.

True again Casdon but LLFL’s point was about Reform UK-v- Lib Dem’s which is what I addressed as a possible explanation.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 29-Aug-25 19:43:52

MayBee70

woodenspoon

MayBee70

It was the Conservative party that started housing migrants in hotels. Labour have said they will stop doing so but it can’t happen overnight. Yet another click bait heading that gransnet are happy to allow.

Hardly a click bait headline if the OP is reporting what was said in open court, surely.

“The need to meet the human rights of asylum seekers by housing them in hotels outweighs safety concerns of local families, the Home Office has told the Court of Appeal”.
It referred to safety concerns, it didn’t say migrants lives are ‘more important’. Imo the words were twisted to give a different more incendiary meaning.

Yes

Doodledog Fri 29-Aug-25 19:47:17

LizzieDrip

FriedGreenTomatoes2

They actually said it.
“Keir Starmer's Labour government thinks the rights of illegal immigrants are more important than the rights of local people”.

Who said it?

Who indeed? I'm another who would like to see the source of this 'quote'

Those words are clearly opinion - and opinion from someone who sees the world in that way, not someone who is even pretending to be objective.

It is not a zero sum game. Both groups have rights, and one is not taking from the other.

Oreo Fri 29-Aug-25 19:53:39

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I think so.
It was their appeal statement in Court. To overturn the previous decision about housing migrants in that hotel in Epping it was their salvo.

Well I think it’s just put a nail in their coffin.

What do you think?

It’s as if Starmer is so fed up with the job of PM that he’s giving a helping hand to Farage.
More important than residents!

Oreo Fri 29-Aug-25 19:55:39

Local people =residents

Oreo Fri 29-Aug-25 19:56:32

Local families = residents

MayBee70 Fri 29-Aug-25 20:12:46

Some of you are just gleefully stirring up the unrest perpetrated by Farage. Why? sad

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 29-Aug-25 20:13:51

Only the same as ‘some people’ are playing it down.

Oreo Fri 29-Aug-25 20:14:35

It’s not gleeful Maybee70 not at all, it’s with a real sense of foreboding and worry.

Cossy Fri 29-Aug-25 20:17:36

Perhaps taken out of context or has to be read along with the rest of the statement?

In my humble opinion, all citizens or visitors, ie human beings, are all as important as each other, but some have more urgent needs.

Cossy Fri 29-Aug-25 20:18:26

Maremia

How many posters on this thread believe that the best people to protect 'our women and girls' are those bussed-in rent a mob thugs, many of whom have form for domestic violence?

No one with any sense

woodenspoon Fri 29-Aug-25 20:23:04

MayBee70

Some of you are just gleefully stirring up the unrest perpetrated by Farage. Why? sad

Nobody is gleefully stirring up anything. What a very odd take on a much publicised court case where the ramifications affect British citizens who pay their taxes to support these migrants. Billions every year spent on them.

Yesterday, near Heathrow airport, they were advertising for tutors to teach these migrants floristry skills, balloon making etc. the sheer lunacy of this government department in allowing this and advertising it. They treat us all with utter contempt. Only when it became known in the press were they told to take these ads down.

LizzieDrip Fri 29-Aug-25 20:38:21

Please WHO said:

“Keir Starmer's Labour government thinks the rights of illegal immigrants are more important than the rights of local people”.

LizzieDrip Fri 29-Aug-25 20:45:18

Oreo

It’s not gleeful Maybee70 not at all, it’s with a real sense of foreboding and worry.

About what?

Nougat Fri 29-Aug-25 20:53:54

The only people who have been reported saying anything like this are Philps and Farage. Well, they would, wouldn't they? MRDA.

We all know that Jenrick introduced the hotel scheme in 2022 in response to the increasing number of irregular migrants after legal routes to claim asylum disappeared as a result of Brexit. It's rich when the very people and parties who caused this situation feign outrage.

The usual misinformation from this poster done deliberately to stir up an argument. Someone should should have run a book on how long it would take before the judges' decision was made public and she started this thread.

Tiresome and totally predicatable.

fancythat Fri 29-Aug-25 21:10:51

MayBee70

woodenspoon

MayBee70

It was the Conservative party that started housing migrants in hotels. Labour have said they will stop doing so but it can’t happen overnight. Yet another click bait heading that gransnet are happy to allow.

Hardly a click bait headline if the OP is reporting what was said in open court, surely.

“The need to meet the human rights of asylum seekers by housing them in hotels outweighs safety concerns of local families, the Home Office has told the Court of Appeal”.
It referred to safety concerns, it didn’t say migrants lives are ‘more important’. Imo the words were twisted to give a different more incendiary meaning.

That is even worse.

Surely?