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Israel hits Qatar

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Babs03 Wed 10-Sept-25 08:13:36

Is this finally a step too far for Netanyahu, hitting, not what is perceived as an enemy state like Iran but a firm ally of the west, particularly the US. A mother of a hostage in Israel says that Netanyahu has now handed her son a death sentence by his aggression.
Should any first world nation have this kind of impunity?
And with Qatar threatening to respond how is Israel making the state of Israel safer by its actions?

ronib Wed 10-Sept-25 13:13:45

FWIW we sure aren’t protecting Palestinians now are we? CariadAgain. The onslaught is not going to stop until Israel has met its objectives. If this goes on for the next 20, 50 or 100 years it’s a complete disaster and failure and cheap jibes don’t help.

Babs03 Wed 10-Sept-25 13:13:48

Mt61

I thought it was America, who wanted Hamas in Qatar?

www.cbc.ca/news/politics/israel-attack-doha-consequences-mediator-1.7628885

Here it is spelled out for those who think they know what is going on here.

CariadAgain Wed 10-Sept-25 13:32:28

This is where I want one of those forensic questioners on here that does this for a job ....and getting a straight answer to a question......

ronib Wed 10-Sept-25 14:04:16

Well CariadAgain No I am not one of those 3 brave Jewish women.
Are you involved in Palestine Action?

Parsley3 Wed 10-Sept-25 15:21:09

For anyone who hasn't opened it, this quotation from your link Babs explains why Qatar is involved.

The Embassy of Qatar was asked following the Oct. 7 attacks why the country was hosting Hamas leadership.
The Hamas office in Doha … has been used from the beginning as a channel of communication and a means to bring peace to the region and that is in co-ordination with our Western allies, particularly the United States," the embassy responded in a statement.

"When the Hamas office was opened in Qatar several years ago, it was done with the very explicit support of the U.S. and Israel. This was not done against their wishes," Juneau said.

Maremia Wed 10-Sept-25 15:28:27

Israel can stop the onslaught at any time it choses. Israel has chosen genocide.
Who will Qatar trust now?
Where will it be safe to hold negotiations to free those hostages? Is that no longer Netanyahu's intention?
Just ask away CaraidAgain.

Babs03 Wed 10-Sept-25 15:32:03

The worrying consequence of this is that Arab nations are now calling into question the support and security the US has previously extended to them. No altruistic gesture by the US you can imagine that they benefitted from such allies in this particular region.
And I can’t see Trump having the intelligence to deal with this extremely precarious situation.

Babs03 Wed 10-Sept-25 15:37:20

As I said for a government wanting to ensure the safety and security of Israel and the return of the hostages, this recent bombardment puts paid to that idea in no uncertain terms.

Maremia Wed 10-Sept-25 15:37:20

Geopolitics just got more 'interesting', unfortunately.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 10-Sept-25 15:43:42

ronib

I am probably the only person in the UK who thinks this but here goes. Were 6 Israelis killed at a bus stop (of all places) in Jerusalem? The biblical eye for an eye seems to be in full operation in Netanyahu’s retaliation. You hit me and I hit you.
In any event, Qatar is complicit in harbouring Hamas terrorists. I have to say that I am ashamed and astonished by the response by the West to the 6 Israelis killed at a bus stop in Jerusalem.

Your post couldn’t be more wrong.

ronib Wed 10-Sept-25 15:51:27

You mean other people agree with me? Wwm2 Bless.

Anniebach Wed 10-Sept-25 15:59:41

Quote ronib Wed 10-Sept-25 15:51:27
You mean other people agree with me? Wwm2 Bless

I certainly agree with you ronib suddenly Quater are peacemakers

Iam64 Wed 10-Sept-25 16:16:23

ronib

You mean other people agree with me? Wwm2 Bless.

Passive patronising aggression - how does that add to what is a serious discussion here

CariadAgain Wed 10-Sept-25 16:19:20

If there's such a thing as a government that has gone collectively insane.

Right now streaming on YouTube is a video from what I've found to be a pretty reasonable foreign news channel (ie Times of India).

Title:
LIVE: Israel Bombs 2nd Arab Country in 24 hours: after Qatar, Saudi neighbour bombed

Parsley3 Wed 10-Sept-25 16:44:23

Is it this one?
Several' killed in Israeli strikes on Yemen - reports
published at 16:07
16:07
We're beginning to get a sense of the impact of Israel's attack on Yemen, with Houthi-affiliated media reporting that several people have been killed in the strikes, Reuters and AFP news agencies say.

The IDF has said that it targeted Houthi military camps in Sanaa and Al-Jawf, as well as a Houthi media headquarters and fuel storage sites.

A spokesperson for the Yemen Armed Forces said a large part of the Israeli attack was stopped by its air defences.

Onlymedea Wed 10-Sept-25 16:51:30

ronib

CariadAgain

...Would you prefer directness ronib? Are you one of these 3 women?

CariadAgain I also have a relative once a Royal Marine Commando. He was very good at emphasising how his job was to follow orders and not question the legitimacy of the action. Clearly you come from this background? Well I don’t.

You can hardly blame people like Cariad's father for their opinion of the Jewish terrorists who were killing British soldiers. You'd hardly expect them to be full of good feeling and fond memories.

AGAA4 Wed 10-Sept-25 16:51:48

Israel have been bombing the
Houthis for some time I think.

50 Palestinians have been killed in Gaza today. I wonder if any were Hamas.

CariadAgain Wed 10-Sept-25 16:55:54

youtube.com/watch?v=v1wZiKKFKgl

should do it....though I've found sometimes one has to change "wwwyoutube.com" to "www.youtu.be.com" - and I've never figured out why...

CariadAgain Wed 10-Sept-25 16:56:58

Let's have a go at that:

www.youtu.be.com/watch?v=v1wZiKKFKgl

Babs03 Wed 10-Sept-25 17:40:45

AGAA4

Israel have been bombing the
Houthis for some time I think.

50 Palestinians have been killed in Gaza today. I wonder if any were Hamas.

Am pretty sure was an Hamas operative half a mile away, good enough reason.

Babs03 Wed 10-Sept-25 17:41:22

Btw that wasn’t true I was being sarcastic

Whitewavemark2 Wed 10-Sept-25 17:50:59

Listening to James Elder yesterday it was so incredibly sad when he described how the Palestinians who are naturally very optimistic and very resourceful, are beginning to loose all hope. I guess it is very difficult to cope when you lack water and food and proper shelter as well as watching your family gradually loosing more and more weight.

Iam64 Wed 10-Sept-25 17:55:49

Well said whitewave. The long term impact on those involved, especially the Palestinians can’t be underestimated

CariadAgain Wed 10-Sept-25 18:13:28

Onlymedea

ronib

CariadAgain

...Would you prefer directness ronib? Are you one of these 3 women?

CariadAgain I also have a relative once a Royal Marine Commando. He was very good at emphasising how his job was to follow orders and not question the legitimacy of the action. Clearly you come from this background? Well I don’t.

You can hardly blame people like Cariad's father for their opinion of the Jewish terrorists who were killing British soldiers. You'd hardly expect them to be full of good feeling and fond memories.

This has got me wondering what else he didnt mention to me - as I'm unaware of that aspect. But that "killing" side of things was something he rarely touched upon one way or another.

It was more clear what he thought of it all that he didnt want either myself or my erstwhile brother going into the Armed Forces - he was quite clear he wanted us both to steer well clear. I did steer well clear....I would have been unemployed sooner than have anything to do with them. My erstwhile brother on the other hand - his choice was incredibly restricted by his IQ of 80 (ie low!) and he saw nothing against them and his last job was being a driver at Greenham Common (ie the Cruise Missile base) - whilst complaining he didn't want me demonstrating outside (a fact I studiously ignored obviously and did exactly what I pleased in the peace cause).

My father was expressing sympathies with the Palestinians and it was clear he was mentally on their side - whatever was actually going on. He was obviously more likely to be on their side anyway - given that he was very very conscious of having come from a large/poor working class family and how it had affected his life for the worse and would have sympathised with them having their homes stolen from them by the Israelis. He was very straitlaced on the moral front about peoples conduct in any respect...and so would have very much disapproved of the Israelis all round.

Babs03 Wed 10-Sept-25 18:18:00

I think for parents to watch their babies die of starvation or their older children blown up, or older siblings still painfully young, as young as 7 or 8 in some cases, left to parent younger siblings because there are no adults alive to look after them, is the stuff of nightmares we can’t even begin to imagine.
It is just too dark to want to go there, but they live there day and night.
However I doubt that hope can live in that place.