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Genocide is being committed in Gaza by Israel

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Whitewavemark2 Tue 16-Sept-25 10:16:17

4 of the 5 conditions are fulfilled.

UN report.

Anniebach Mon 22-Sept-25 16:40:53

Quote AGAA4 Mon 22-Sept-25 16:38:00
The truth is the hostages have been forgotten by their own government who have given them scant regard in their aim for Gaza.

Your truth

Oreo Mon 22-Sept-25 16:43:25

AGAA4

The truth is the hostages have been forgotten by their own government who have given them scant regard in their aim for Gaza.

There are only at the most 20 live hostages to return and over 200 were taken.
Not a bad effort by BN and his government by anyone’s reckoning.

silverlining48 Mon 22-Sept-25 16:54:08

Not a bad effort by Netanyahu and his cronies? Seriously.? He clearly doesn’t give damn about them.
He could have had all the hostages back 6 months ago had he kept to the agreement he signed up to.
In the meantime they have suffered the bombs and rockets , the starvation and destruction that the rest of Gaza have suffered, it’s a miracle that any survive.

Babs03 Mon 22-Sept-25 17:17:34

I agree silverlining, Netanyahu only cares about bulldozing what is left of Gaza and securing it for Israelis, though he will have to sell off some of it at mates rates to Trump who wants to build another vegas.
Imagine living on top of the countless skeletons of Palestinians buried too deep to retrieve, I shudder at the thought of it.

foxie48 Mon 22-Sept-25 17:40:33

"There are only at the most 20 live hostages to return and over 200 were taken.
Not a bad effort by BN and his government by anyone’s reckoning."

Seeing how the hoastage's families have persistently campaigned and protested to try to get the return of the hostages forefront in Netanyahu's actions, I imagine they think it has been a very poor effort.

Anniebach Mon 22-Sept-25 18:15:44

How tales change, Netanyahu started the war October 2023 to avoid being prosecuted for some criminal action allegedly.
January 2025 Trump president of US, Netanyahu started the war to kill all those in Gaza , take Gaza and with Trump turn it into a luxurious holiday destination, allegedly

2 large porkies I think

silverlining48 Mon 22-Sept-25 18:28:01

Netanyahu hasnt avoided prosecution, he has already been charged and attends court for corruption and other offences.

As for the new Las Vegas in Gaza, plans have been well publicised.

So no, no porkies.

AGAA4 Mon 22-Sept-25 18:31:45

Trump's comprehensive plan for Gaza is to turn it into a holiday resort and hi tech manufacturing area.
It is easy to find if you read various news outlets.

AGAA4 Mon 22-Sept-25 18:36:19

Members of the Knesset have been accused of corruption and at least two have been convicted of criminal offences. Not a good look for the government of a nation like Israel.

Anniebach Mon 22-Sept-25 18:36:26

No mention of the luxury holiday resort for over a year , come
Trump this year , luxury holiday resort

Babs03 Mon 22-Sept-25 18:43:49

I just wonder how those cheering Netanyahu on and unhappy with erstwhile allies recognising Palestine can explain why these governments, that were falling over themselves to support Israel, have no withdrawn their support. After all these are allies that stuck by Israel through every other conflict with Gaza, and ‘yes’ there have been others, yes innocent Palestinians were killed then also, and no Hamas had not launched an attack on Israelis on those occasions, so hardly provoked, but still western allies held fast. However, this time they haven’t. Why?
And just saying they want the Muslim vote doesn’t wash, certainly these governments haven’t cared too much about this in the past, France has gone out of its way to alienate its Muslim population and the UK hardly took their side for some time, even saying in the beginning that it was a good move to stop water and electricity in Gaza.
So why?
Could it possibly be because on this occasion Netanyahu has gone way beyond the pale, even by Israeli government standards, and fears of the stain of genocide sticking to western governments long after the dust has settled outweigh the loss of an erstwhile ally

silverlining48 Mon 22-Sept-25 20:53:22

I have just watched Panorama on bbc1. 8pm tonight.
A hard but necessary watch.

Oreo Mon 22-Sept-25 21:04:27

It’s the left really as well as fear of losing the Muslim vote and upsetting trade unions and members of the Party who are very pro Palestinian.You see it happening in Italy just now organised by the left and the trade unions there.
Their peaceful pro Palestinian protest has injured 60 police officers!
Macron is unpopular and has given in as appeasement.
The West is in general pro Israel as they don’t want Islamist extremism in their own countries and left to themselves wouldn’t be recognising a State that doesn’t exist, but Starmer and Macron are both unpopular in their countries, this is simply playing politics .

growstuff Mon 22-Sept-25 21:35:55

Oreo

It’s the left really as well as fear of losing the Muslim vote and upsetting trade unions and members of the Party who are very pro Palestinian.You see it happening in Italy just now organised by the left and the trade unions there.
Their peaceful pro Palestinian protest has injured 60 police officers!
Macron is unpopular and has given in as appeasement.
The West is in general pro Israel as they don’t want Islamist extremism in their own countries and left to themselves wouldn’t be recognising a State that doesn’t exist, but Starmer and Macron are both unpopular in their countries, this is simply playing politics .

But you always claim to be part of the "left". Don't tell us you've been telling porkies all this time! We'd never have guessed.

growstuff Mon 22-Sept-25 21:36:29

Countdown to deletion. grin

Babs03 Mon 22-Sept-25 21:38:55

silverlining48

I have just watched Panorama on bbc1. 8pm tonight.
A hard but necessary watch.

Couldn’t watch it tonight but will catch it on iplayer.

Babs03 Mon 22-Sept-25 21:43:14

I’m just surprised anyone thinks that left wing politics exists today.

Grantanow Mon 22-Sept-25 21:43:32

Prancing about on the world stage is what lame duck leaders do.

silverlining48 Mon 22-Sept-25 22:45:18

Just watched the news with Trump prattling in his inimitable manner about paracetomol and autism.
Can’t believe this individual with an IQ of about 10 can possibly be a world leader. It’s terrifying, that’s what it is, truly terrifying!!

Allira Mon 22-Sept-25 22:56:37

It's surreal.

Babies have 80 different vaccinations?

growstuff Mon 22-Sept-25 23:05:33

Allira

It's surreal.

Babies have 80 different vaccinations?

Is that in the US?

UK babies have nowhere near that number.

growstuff Mon 22-Sept-25 23:06:40

Anyway, back to Gaza ... I bet Gazans would be grateful for a couple of packets of paracetamol.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 23-Sept-25 07:33:51

Anyone watch Panorama?

Just a programme that confirms everything we’ve been saying.

I suppose the deniers will soon be claiming it to be all lies and the BBC is actually Hamas in disguise.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 23-Sept-25 07:34:56

growstuff

Countdown to deletion. grin

😄😄 love it.

Deletion watch!

foxie48 Tue 23-Sept-25 07:52:47

I think the evidence coming out of Gaza is so compelling that governments are being forced to accept that the Israeli government is committing genocide and don't wish to be complicit. Also the increasing encroachment into Palestinian territory in the West Bank is such that it's impossible to ignore the illegal settlers which is further jeopardising there being enough territory for the Palestinians to have a viable state. I also think governments have accepted that Trump will allow Netanyahu to do what he wants. Epstein was said to have links to Mossad, is there something Netanyahu can hold over Trump?