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Genocide is being committed in Gaza by Israel

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Whitewavemark2 Tue 16-Sept-25 10:16:17

4 of the 5 conditions are fulfilled.

UN report.

Carbonated Thu 18-Sept-25 16:19:15

Shame. Shame. Shame on the Israeli governments. Their genocide causing suffering in a similar vein as that endured by the Jewish and other victims of the holocaust, has resulted in a stain, that people across the world won't forget. Even if they are called names for stating the truth, by the Israeli government.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 18-Sept-25 16:23:13

There have been a few times when the hostages were going to be release as a result of an agreement, but Netanyahu scuppered it by his actions each time.

Babs03 Thu 18-Sept-25 16:27:42

AGAA4

Trying to call it defence now is laughable. It stopped being defence a long time ago.

Agree.

Anniebach Thu 18-Sept-25 16:30:57

Yet if Gaza is being bomb to pieces, if those who live there are starving to,death and Hamas are beaten , why keep the hostages? pointless saying “to ward off Israel “ yes ?

Babs03 Thu 18-Sept-25 16:37:15

Anniebach

Yet if Gaza is being bomb to pieces, if those who live there are starving to,death and Hamas are beaten , why keep the hostages? pointless saying “to ward off Israel “ yes ?

So they should just release the hostages without a ceasefire??
And straight away the hostages are either shot or bombed by the IDF.
Not a clever move Annie.
The whole idea of a ceasefire benefits the hostages as well as Hamas and the Palestinians.
Sometimes we need to join the dots.

Maremia Thu 18-Sept-25 16:45:16

If the Hostage Families are blaming Netanyahu for sabotaging the ceasfire deals so many times, perhaps they should be listened to.

Anniebach Thu 18-Sept-25 16:51:57

Quote Maremia Thu 18-Sept-25 16:45:16
If the Hostage Families are blaming Netanyahu for sabotaging the ceasfire deals so many times, perhaps they should be listened to.

Many times ? how many is many

Maremia Thu 18-Sept-25 17:00:39

As many times as he has done it. Destroyed the Hostages chances of release.

Anniebach Thu 18-Sept-25 17:12:05

Quote Maremia Thu 18-Sept-25 17:00:39
As many times as he has done it. Destroyed the Hostages chances of release.

Think of a number and multiply by 2, 4, 10, 20?

Whitewavemark2 Thu 18-Sept-25 17:19:15

Today at the press conference with Trump, it was good to hear Starmer reiterate that the U.K. will recognise the Palestinian state.

Maremia Thu 18-Sept-25 18:13:29

I missed that bit. What was the reaction?

Maremia Thu 18-Sept-25 18:14:19

What are your calculations AnnieB, the number of times GENOCIDE has been denied on these threads?

Catlover123 Thu 18-Sept-25 18:21:11

I listened to a British military man who had been in Gaza who said it was not genocide. the UN have taken information from Hamas. Hamas have pledged genocide to Israel for many years. I don't think you would give warnings for people to evacuate if you wanted genocide and you wouldn't be sending in aid?

pen50 Thu 18-Sept-25 19:00:58

Catlover123

I listened to a British military man who had been in Gaza who said it was not genocide. the UN have taken information from Hamas. Hamas have pledged genocide to Israel for many years. I don't think you would give warnings for people to evacuate if you wanted genocide and you wouldn't be sending in aid?

Exactly. Figures provided by Hamas swallowed whole by gullible institutions in thrall to some idiotically romantic idea of Hamas as being basically cuddly and not at all the sort of people who'd chuck gays off high buildings.

Give me strength.

keepingquiet Thu 18-Sept-25 19:09:22

Netanyahu isn't interested in the hostages and never was. He wants Gaza gone and the hopes of a Palestinian state with it.

If he really wanted the hostages out he wouldn't be bombing hospitals and killing innocent children.

He has gone too far and it doesn't look like there's a hope in hell this war will end well for Hammas or for Israel...

Anniebach Thu 18-Sept-25 19:09:40

Quote Maremia Thu 18-Sept-25 18:14:19
What are your calculations AnnieB, the number of times GENOCIDE has been denied on these threads?

I have said and still say, it is not genocide. Very few say the same.

Oreo Thu 18-Sept-25 19:13:10

It won’t end well for hamas, I’ll give you that.

AGAA4 Thu 18-Sept-25 19:31:35

It's more or less ended for Hamas - for now.

Carbonated Thu 18-Sept-25 20:24:47

Interesting there are comments in this thread about how bad Hamas have been. They are a terrorist organisation. What else than violence and desperation can one expect from them?
This thread is about Israels genocide. Something people across the world will not forget. Its being committed by a democratically elected government representing a free people.
Inequal culpability.

Babs03 Thu 18-Sept-25 21:06:46

Catlover123

I listened to a British military man who had been in Gaza who said it was not genocide. the UN have taken information from Hamas. Hamas have pledged genocide to Israel for many years. I don't think you would give warnings for people to evacuate if you wanted genocide and you wouldn't be sending in aid?

Ok so all the aid agencies and medical personnel on the ground in Gaza as well as those who have reported back to the UN, are lying??
Or this rather convenient military man is?
I very much doubt western governments used to gathering intelligence would be so alarmed by what Israel is doing if it was all a big hoax.

Anniebach Thu 18-Sept-25 21:19:17

Suddenly ‘all aid agencies and medical personnel’ are in Gaza,
no food deliveries, no journalists allowed, if genocide why aid agencies and medical personnel there

Babs03 Thu 18-Sept-25 21:37:05

Medicine sans frontier have been there since the beginning as have some aid agencies, brave people.
But I didn’t expect you to believe it Annie, nor do I need to persuade you, you can carry on disbelieving what the majority are saying until the weight of evidence becomes too great even for you, or you continue in denial.
I really don’t care, just as you don’t care what I believe.

Anniebach Thu 18-Sept-25 21:47:56

I respect you have your opinions Babs , I don’t agree with you and I am not in denial, I post my opinions and thoughts as do you and all who post.

Yes, UN had aid workers in Gaza 7th October 2023, UN explained a number had been sacked for taking part in the brutal attack on Israel which started the war

silverlining48 Thu 18-Sept-25 22:07:20

9 UN aid workers sacked ..…out of how many thousands?

Anniebach Thu 18-Sept-25 22:47:16

Quote silverlining48 Thu 18-Sept-25 22:07:20
9 UN aid workers sacked ..…out of how many thousands?

Yes 9 sacked , I don’t know how many more may have been involved, if any