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Genocide is being committed in Gaza by Israel

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Whitewavemark2 Tue 16-Sept-25 10:16:17

4 of the 5 conditions are fulfilled.

UN report.

Menopauselbitch Thu 18-Sept-25 15:07:54

No one mentions Yemen or Somalia etc. much worse going on and for longer.

Anniebach Thu 18-Sept-25 15:14:42

Quote Essexgirl145 Thu 18-Sept-25 15:03:00
Sorry Grantanow.......that excuse is past it's sell by date. It's evident now why the Germans did what they did. I have had a lot of nasty things done to me in my life which I would never want anyone else to experience and losing everything is one of them. I am with Palestine on this.

The Holocaust is rather more than a nasty thing

AGAA4 Thu 18-Sept-25 15:22:08

Menopauselbitch

No one mentions Yemen or Somalia etc. much worse going on and for longer.

This needs a thread of it's own.

Oreo Thu 18-Sept-25 15:23:03

Menopauselbitch

No one mentions Yemen or Somalia etc. much worse going on and for longer.

Strange isn’t it?

pen50 Thu 18-Sept-25 15:23:48

Genocide is being attemped in Israel by Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, etc. I support Israel's right to defend itself and if that means obliterating that nest of vipers in Gaza City, then so be it. Israel is not killing Palestinians in order to rid the world of Palestinians, it is trying to destroy Hamas' leadership, get back the remaining hostages, and stop anything like the events of 9 October 2023 ever happening again.

paddyann54 Thu 18-Sept-25 15:24:31

Oreo

Menopauselbitch

No one mentions Yemen or Somalia etc. much worse going on and for longer.

Strange isn’t it?

Longer than 1948 ?

Oreo Thu 18-Sept-25 15:24:45

Well said pen50 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

GrannyGravy13 Thu 18-Sept-25 15:24:55

Oreo

Menopauselbitch

No one mentions Yemen or Somalia etc. much worse going on and for longer.

Strange isn’t it?

I started a thread on other atrocities, didn’t get anywhere as much attention as Gaza…

Anniebach Thu 18-Sept-25 15:41:22

Hamas Leaders and Officials:

Statements by Hamas officials make clear the terrorist organization’s commitment to destroying Israel and killing Jews and Israelis around the world.

Ismail Haniyeh in 2020: He explained that Hamas rejects ceasefire agreements by which, “Gaza would become Singapore,” preferring to remain at war with Israel until a Palestinian state is established from the River to the Sea: “We cannot, in exchange for money or projects, give up Palestine and our weapons. We will not give up the resistance... We will not recognize Israel, Palestine must stretch from the [Jordan] River to the [Mediterranean] Sea.”
Hamas official, Hamad Al-Regeb in an April 2023 sermon: He prayed for “annihilation” and “paralysis” of the Jews whom he described as filthy animals: “[Allah] transformed them into filthy, ugly animals like apes and pigs because of the injustice and evil they had brought about.” Al-Regeb also prayed for the ability to “get to the necks of the Jews.”
Hamas Political Bureau Chairman Saleh Al-Arouri in an August 2023 interview: He expressed Hamas’ desire for “total war” with Israel: “Therefore, we are convinced that if a total conflict begins, the airspace and seaports of this entity will be shut down, and they will not be able to live without electricity, water, and communications.”

AGAA4 Thu 18-Sept-25 15:44:15

obliterating that nest of vipers by killing 65,000 Palestinians. This isn't defence and it's not to save the hostages. The IDF have said they have defeated Hamas.
This is to cleanse Gaza of Palestinians as said by Smotrich.
The land is being cleared for plans by Trump.

Anniebach Thu 18-Sept-25 15:47:36

Quote AGAA4 Thu 18-Sept-25 15:44:15
obliterating that nest of vipers by killing 65,000 Palestinians. This isn't defence and it's not to save the hostages. The IDF have said they have defeated Hamas.
This is to cleanse Gaza of Palestinians as said by Smotrich.
The land is being cleared for plans by Trump.

Hamas claimed the number of dead, still claims number of dead

Whitewavemark2 Thu 18-Sept-25 15:51:49

It doesn’t stop at 65000 deaths - there are over 200000 injured according to the IDF. Then of course there is the consequences of lack of nutrition, and starvation.

Oreo Thu 18-Sept-25 15:53:58

AGAA4

*obliterating that nest of vipers* by killing 65,000 Palestinians. This isn't defence and it's not to save the hostages. The IDF have said they have defeated Hamas.
This is to cleanse Gaza of Palestinians as said by Smotrich.
The land is being cleared for plans by Trump.

It quite obviously isn’t!
If killing any Palestinians were the objective then they needn’t trouble themselves to try and root out hamas.But that’s exactly what they are doing in Gaza City right now.That and getting the remaining hostages back.

Maremia Thu 18-Sept-25 15:55:47

Why is it strange to be commentating on a situation that involves input from our own Government?

Frenchgalinspain Thu 18-Sept-25 15:57:17

Whitewavemark2

Israel (not not just the Israeli government) is guilty of genocide

Definition
Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide
Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
Killing members of the group;
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Extremely ugly and repetitive sadistic cruel behaviour.

Well stated White Wave.

Anniebach Thu 18-Sept-25 15:59:33

Genocide ? shooting, bombing , starving, forced movement away from bombing taken 23 months , really?

Maremia Thu 18-Sept-25 16:01:40

You have heard this all before on other threads and I will repeat it here,
Bezalel Smoritch, 'A military victory would see Gaza totally destoyed'
Knesset politicians have signed letters calling for the 'complete cleansing' of the territory.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 18-Sept-25 16:02:44

Israel is simply preparing Gaza for a complete takeover and development. They have said so. There is no other plan.

The fly in the ointment will always be the Palestinians. The concentration camps will contain them for the time, but I am sure that Israel has a plan as to what must be done with them. They can’t stay in Gaza that’s for sure.

AGAA4 Thu 18-Sept-25 16:02:56

If the aim was to 'root out Hamas' why are so many dead and injured?
Why did they have to kill so many children because they thought one Hamas fighter was nearby?
Why did Israel put a blockade on aid for 3 months then inhibited it getting through ever since.
This is not how a civilised country behaves as so very very many believe now.

Maremia Thu 18-Sept-25 16:03:44

Genocide, and the world is wakening up to that fact.

Babs03 Thu 18-Sept-25 16:04:33

Was a talk given in the university of South Sussex yesterday by a medical ethics professor - it is a medical school - regarding how the Israeli government targeted hospitals in Gaza thereby preventing medical care. Another condition of genocide ticked.

SaxonGrace Thu 18-Sept-25 16:09:52

Perhaps just handing back the remaining hostages dead and alive would ease the situation

Anniebach Thu 18-Sept-25 16:10:56

What I have heard on other threads ?

Netanyahu started the war to avoid being tried for something in a court of law .

Netanyahu planned the attack 7th October 2023 with Hamas, he ordered all defence forces to take the 7th October 2023 off work , still to avoid being prosecuted,

then Trump is elected.

Trump and Netanyahu will take Gaza by force and turn it into a luxury holiday resort.

AGAA4 Thu 18-Sept-25 16:12:07

Trying to call it defence now is laughable. It stopped being defence a long time ago.

Babs03 Thu 18-Sept-25 16:14:52

SaxonGrace

Perhaps just handing back the remaining hostages dead and alive would ease the situation

I agree but Israel refused further talks to ensure a ceasefire whereby the hostages could be handed back.
Families of the hostages are now blaming the government, some have been camped outside Netanyahus house.