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No returns of migrants to France yesterday or today.

(173 Posts)
FriedGreenTomatoes2 Tue 16-Sept-25 12:03:39

Owing to last-minute legal challenges and protests from charities.

Seems it’s Starmer’s turn now to sign a deal that literally ‘hasn’t got off the ground’.

Yet I hear there’s an incoming flight to the UK from France so Macron must be pleased.

escaped Tue 23-Sept-25 16:17:26

I'll have you know that DH ran a successful business in France with his school boy O Level French from day one. He became part of the system, paid his taxes, social security etc and did I tell you this before (??) ...... now has been rewarded with a French pension too! 😆 🍷
It's quite doable.

Mollygo Tue 23-Sept-25 16:49:06

escaped

I'll have you know that DH ran a successful business in France with his school boy O Level French from day one. He became part of the system, paid his taxes, social security etc and did I tell you this before (??) ...... now has been rewarded with a French pension too! 😆 🍷
It's quite doable.

No, surely not. 🤣🤣🤣
But well done your DH!

Allira Tue 23-Sept-25 16:55:48

Casdon

We would all need a translator if we were in a foreign country because the French/Spanish/Italian or whatever we learned at school is not our native language, and we would be unable to deal with bureaucracy and complete complex forms without support.

But we'd have to provide our own in most cases.

Casdon Tue 23-Sept-25 17:00:01

Not on £26 a day or whatever it is they get we wouldn’t Allira. I’m sure some of them could manage, like the husband of escaped, and we don’t know that they don’t do that, do we? However most of us would be incapable of applying for asylum, registering with necessary authorities etc. in a language that wasn't our first language.

Primrose53 Tue 23-Sept-25 17:01:32

Casdon

We would all need a translator if we were in a foreign country because the French/Spanish/Italian or whatever we learned at school is not our native language, and we would be unable to deal with bureaucracy and complete complex forms without support.

Like benefit forms and applying for legal aid and getting your extended families over here? 😝

escaped Tue 23-Sept-25 17:05:09

Sans blague Mollygo! Thanks.
Hours spent with French notaires, insurance agents, customs officials, accountants, telecom engineers, etc. The hardest thing was re-registering his car, and the septic tank regulations!
25 years ago everything was done face to face with a handshake, and sometimes a glass of wine!
Asylum seekers should at least be able to look on their phones first for information. When DH was starting out, that luxury wasn't so much available.

Casdon Tue 23-Sept-25 17:05:31

I’m sure you speak perfect Japanese and Bangladeshi Primrose53, and could complete all the necessary bureaucracy with no help whatsoever.

petra Tue 23-Sept-25 17:12:41

Allira

Casdon

We would all need a translator if we were in a foreign country because the French/Spanish/Italian or whatever we learned at school is not our native language, and we would be unable to deal with bureaucracy and complete complex forms without support.

But we'd have to provide our own in most cases.

Or spend thousands as we had to when buying a property outside the eu which complicated matters.

escaped Tue 23-Sept-25 17:13:49

Fact:
I've just checked the government's Service- Public fr website, and a translation of the Demande d'asile is translated into ourdou, arabe, bengali et russe to name a few languages.

Casdon Tue 23-Sept-25 17:19:56

Can applicants complete the forms in their own language escaped?

vegansrock Tue 23-Sept-25 17:28:58

A former colleague of mine had to appear in court in France for a driving offence. No translator unless paid for by himself. Hefty fine which had to be paid immediately before he got his car back.

sundowngirl Tue 23-Sept-25 17:30:14

Casdon

Not on £26 a day or whatever it is they get we wouldn’t Allira. I’m sure some of them could manage, like the husband of escaped, and we don’t know that they don’t do that, do we? However most of us would be incapable of applying for asylum, registering with necessary authorities etc. in a language that wasn't our first language.

We are given to understand that many of these arrivals speak perfect English, perhaps they could help their fellow asylum seekers complete the necessary forms. When we are in foreign countries we have to take someone with us to translate when necessary, whether it is at the doctors or completing forms.
But why would these immigrants help each other when they get everything provided for free or should I say, paid for by us?

escaped Tue 23-Sept-25 17:31:17

Nope Casdon, I'll quote, to be clear,
Il est essentiel de noter que tous les documents doivent être traduits en français si nécessaire, et doivent être authentiques et vérifiables. Si certains documents sont difficiles à obtenir, il est conseillé d’expliquer la situation à l’OFPRA.
French only, but a professional translator is provided by ORPRA - (l’Office français de protection des réfugiés et apatrides).

Casdon Tue 23-Sept-25 17:37:11

Thanks escaped, that is helpful to know. It sounds similar to the way it works in the UK.

Oreo Tue 23-Sept-25 18:09:33

The Guardian is wetter than a duck’s arse.🦆

Oreo Tue 23-Sept-25 18:10:56

Wrong thread, my iPad jumped.😂

Oreo Tue 23-Sept-25 18:14:08

Do you have homes here and in France escaped or just visit there?

escaped Tue 23-Sept-25 18:28:38

Oreo

Do you have homes here and in France escaped or just visit there?

He he, we used to have an empire in France - 4 individual houses with a pool etc. plus an apartment on the coast.
Gradually down to the last one now.

Allira Tue 23-Sept-25 18:29:47

Casdon

Not on £26 a day or whatever it is they get we wouldn’t Allira. I’m sure some of them could manage, like the husband of escaped, and we don’t know that they don’t do that, do we? However most of us would be incapable of applying for asylum, registering with necessary authorities etc. in a language that wasn't our first language.

But we don't all go to France Casdon!

escaped Tue 23-Sept-25 18:32:14

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

escaped Tue 23-Sept-25 18:43:51

Oreo, this one was my favourite.

Oreo Tue 23-Sept-25 21:06:24

escaped

Oreo

Do you have homes here and in France escaped or just visit there?

He he, we used to have an empire in France - 4 individual houses with a pool etc. plus an apartment on the coast.
Gradually down to the last one now.

Oooh I’d love an empire all of my own.Must have been hard work looking after them all, holiday gites?
Lovely pic did you or a friend paint it? Such pretty houses.
We had a holiday gite in Normandy many moons ago it was beautiful.By had I mean we rented it for a fortnight.😄
Always meant to return but life gets in the way of our plans sometimes.

Allira Tue 23-Sept-25 21:10:30

life gets in the way of our plans sometimes.

It certainly does.

Skydancer Tue 23-Sept-25 21:22:40

Yes it IS true. Why don’t people get this?

Skydancer Tue 23-Sept-25 21:26:30

Sorry, my last post was agreeing with Oreo when she said people had turned up their noses at safe countries they had passed through.
And who cares how many immigrants have been taken in by other countries. It’s THIS country I care about.